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Post by middleenglander on Aug 30, 2013 15:42:26 GMT
South Lakeland, Windermere / Bowness North - Lib Dem hold - corrected share changes in 2008 | Party | 2013 vote | 2013 share | since 2011 | since 2008 | since 2007 | | Lib Dems | 431 | 60.9% | -4.2% | -13.4% | +1.0% | | Conservatives | 248 | 35.0% | +5.1% | +9.3% | -1.1% | | Labour | 29 | 4.1% | -0.9% | from nowhere | +1.4% | | Save Our NHS |
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| -1.2% | | Total votes | 708 |
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Swing Lib Dems to Conservatives 4½% since 2011 and 11% since 2008 - but 1% Conservative to Lib Dem since 2007 when resigning councillor was first elected
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Post by tricky on Aug 30, 2013 18:32:12 GMT
Westmorland and Lonsdale has been there or thereabouts for us for decades. It is good territory that Tim and his team have turned into excellent territory. Has it? I haven't checked the results but I remember it always being a very solid Tory seat. I would have thought it only appeared on the Tory radar screen after 97 when the Tory majority was sharply reduced in line with the national trend, and there was a reasonably-sized third place Labour vote to squeeze (which you have now squeezed down to 2%). What Nigel Ashton said is very true. Even in bits of the sixties and seventies we were approaching it, fell back in the eighties and then came through in the nineties. It was always receptive to Liberals. |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 30, 2013 21:37:50 GMT
Has it? I haven't checked the results but I remember it always being a very solid Tory seat. I would have thought it only appeared on the Tory radar screen after 97 when the Tory majority was sharply reduced in line with the national trend, and there was a reasonably-sized third place Labour vote to squeeze (which you have now squeezed down to 2%). What Nigel Ashton said is very true. Even in bits of the sixties and seventies we were approaching it, fell back in the eighties and then came through in the nineties. It was always receptive to Liberals. I think you're underestimating the Liberal achievement here  . The Tories (or rather Unionists) Col J Weston/ Maj OFG Stanley were unopposed in Westmorland in 1918,1922 , 1923 and again in 1931. In 1924 and 1935 there were only Labour opponents. After the splitting of the historic Westmorland seat in 1885 the Liberals had managed to win Westmorland South (Kendal) in the 1906 landslide and Westmorland North(Appleby) in 1900 and 1906, but after 1910 stood only one candidate until 1945, when Labour finished second. The tussle for a distant and apparently pointless second place went on pretty much until the 1970s. It can't therefore really be ranked with places like Southport or Chippenham where the Liberals didn't miss a single election 1918-45, won both seats at least once in that period, and were always competitive after that - although they did miss one post WWII election in each constituency. The last Labour candidate to finish second in Southport, was, of course, John Prescott in 1966. |
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Post by simoncooke on Sept 3, 2013 14:46:14 GMT
Never quite understood the Lib Dem strength in Lakeland. I assume it's almost entirely down to Farron's personal popularity. Its Farron's personal popularity I find harder to understand I seem to recall that he had a staggeringly high level of name recognition especially in Kendal. I remember a radio vox pop where nearly everyone asked knew his name and most had (or claimed to have) met him. He was very nice to me when I called him a communist over his support for supermarket price fixing and farm subsidies! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 3, 2013 17:05:50 GMT
I remember that. I think I retweeted it
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 5, 2013 10:12:08 GMT
Has it? I haven't checked the results but I remember it always being a very solid Tory seat. I would have thought it only appeared on the Tory radar screen after 97 when the Tory majority was sharply reduced in line with the national trend, and there was a reasonably-sized third place Labour vote to squeeze (which you have now squeezed down to 2%). What Nigel Ashton said is very true. Even in bits of the sixties and seventies we were approaching it, fell back in the eighties and then came through in the nineties. It was always receptive to Liberals. That is true. Labour were always third and could only ever win a couple of wards in Kendal |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 5, 2013 11:08:27 GMT
What Nigel Ashton said is very true. Even in bits of the sixties and seventies we were approaching it, fell back in the eighties and then came through in the nineties. It was always receptive to Liberals. That is true. Labour were always third and could only ever win a couple of wards in Kendal That is not quite true . The Labour strength was concentrated in Kendal itself , in 2002 they won 6 of the Kendal wards and one of the CC Kendal seats in 2005 . They lost all 6 district wards to the Lib Dems in 2006 with Labour not even coming close to retaining any and the CC division in 2009 with Labour getting just 7% .. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 5, 2013 15:50:45 GMT
That is true. Labour were always third and could only ever win a couple of wards in Kendal That is not quite true . The Labour strength was concentrated in Kendal itself , in 2002 they won 6 of the Kendal wards and one of the CC Kendal seats in 2005 . They lost all 6 district wards to the Lib Dems in 2006 with Labour not even coming close to retaining any and the CC division in 2009 with Labour getting just 7% .. Sure, but this is a DC so the wards are very small. And even with the wins in Kendal at the height of popularity we were in third place in terms of overall vote. Never a likely Labour win, so voters opted for a tactical vote to keep out the Tories which is inevitable with FPTP. |
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. The Tories (or rather Unionists) Col J Weston/ Maj OFG Stanley were unopposed in Westmorland in 1918,1922 , 1923 and again in 1931. In 1924 and 1935 there were only Labour opponents. After the splitting of the historic Westmorland seat in 1885 the Liberals had managed to win Westmorland South (Kendal) in the 1906 landslide and Westmorland North(Appleby) in 1900 and 1906, but after 1910 stood only one candidate until 1945, when Labour finished second. The tussle for a distant and apparently pointless second place went on pretty much until the 1970s. It can't therefore really be ranked with places like Southport or Chippenham where the Liberals didn't miss a single election 1918-45, won both seats at least once in that period, and were always competitive after that - although they did miss one post WWII election in each constituency. The last Labour candidate to finish second in Southport, was, of course, John Prescott in 1966. 
