piperdave
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Post by piperdave on Jul 17, 2013 19:00:26 GMT
IIRC, polling day was 7 March in case anyone wants to look back at the thread. I remember being quite surprised at this when I read it because from folk I know up there, Carolle was as stunned as anyone else at the count and was offering to step down in his favour until someone told her it didn't quite work like that (and indeed it didn't in the by-election). So it's not as if she'd deliberately gone out to steal the seat from the sitting SNP cllr.
The SNP's strategy here wasn't particularly bad either. Between them, the two candidates polled 37% of first preferences for a 4 member ward. Carolle Ralph was one vote shy of the quota but David Stewart couldn't make up 3% after several rounds of transfers and was leap-frogged by an independent. In another ward with less popular opposition, Stewart could probably have hung on to be elected as last man standing. But it was not to be. The one thing the SNP could have done to increase their vote marginally would have been to have chosen candidates from different parts of the ward. Both Ralph and Stewart lived in Lossiemouth.
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Post by mrhell on Jul 17, 2013 21:45:02 GMT
Meanwhile the BBC correspondent is so stupid they don't know how STV elections work.
"The former social worker was put up against sitting councillor and colleague Mr Stewart,"
"The nationalist vote in the ward was split,"
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 17, 2013 23:09:44 GMT
The SNP's strategy here wasn't particularly bad either. Between them, the two candidates polled 37% of first preferences for a 4 member ward. Carolle Ralph was one vote shy of the quota but David Stewart couldn't make up 3% after several rounds of transfers and was leap-frogged by an independent. In another ward with less popular opposition, Stewart could probably have hung on to be elected as last man standing. But it was not to be. The one thing the SNP could have done to increase their vote marginally would have been to have chosen candidates from different parts of the ward. Both Ralph and Stewart lived in Lossiemouth. So it was the independent councillor whom the defeated councillor's wife should have taken umbrage with, then? |
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Post by mrhell on Jul 18, 2013 0:33:38 GMT
So it was the independent councillor whom the defeated councillor's wife should have taken umbrage with, then? Reminds me of a story told by David Faulkner (former Lib Dem leader of Newcastle City Council). He was originally elected for Elswick in an all-up election in 1973. He'd topped the poll followed by two Labour councillors. One of them (think Doris Starkey) complained to him that he'd he beaten a Labour councillor. David replied that actually she'd beaten him by coming third. Posted Moray story on Facebook and been told that the SNP strategy of having two candidates was to try and beat the Ind/Con leader. |
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on Jul 18, 2013 0:33:58 GMT
No, no, don't be silly Alan. It's the electorate she should have intimidated given their inability to vote the right way!
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 18, 2013 10:11:54 GMT
It seems her assailant was the wife of a defeated SNP colleague who lost out to her despite his greater experience, perhaps due to being alphabetically behind her Wasn't something like this widely suspected all along?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 11:45:09 GMT
Posted Moray story on Facebook and been told that the SNP strategy of having two candidates was to try and beat the Ind/Con leader. I can exclusively reveal that the SNP strategy of having two candidates was to try and elect two councillors. Given the SNP share of the vote in both 2007 and 2012, it wasn't an unrealistic strategy; it just didn't succeed. |
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