Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 10, 2013 14:10:52 GMT
Paul Nuttall is apparently in Gibraltar at the moment. Here's him meeting the by election winner /photo/1and here's him with a couple of opposition MPs /photo/1Well done the Liberal minister to get Nuttall shaking hands in front of a European flag! I presume UKIP would stand on an EU withdrawal stance in Gibraltar, in which case they will find that Gibraltarians are actually anti-Spanish harrassment and pro EU rules being enforced rather than the possible closed border that could happen should the UK withraw from the EU. |
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Post by Devonian on Aug 11, 2013 21:07:04 GMT
It would be perfectly logical for UKIP to stand if their manifesto included a provision to integrate Gib into the UK. You're quite right it would. Just having a quick look at the comparative situation with the Overseas territories of other Countries. Denmark. Its Autonomous constituent countries, Faroe Islands and Greenland both have their own party system. There doesn't seem to be any representation of parties from Denmark proper. Netherlands. The same is true of the Caribbean countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten. Each has its own entirely seperate party system. Finland. The Aland Islands have their own party system France. France of course has both Overseas Departments and overseas Collectivities. they have a mixture of French parties and their own parties. |
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Post by Devonian on Aug 13, 2013 14:31:09 GMT
Here is Paul Nuttall's interview with Gibraltar TV on YouTube
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Post by Devonian on Aug 13, 2013 14:43:19 GMT
It would be perfectly logical for UKIP to stand if their manifesto included a provision to integrate Gib into the UK. Two comparable situations I can find. New Caledonia where there is political division between those who want integration with France and those who want full independence. The largest pro-French party is a branch of the UMP. Of course much closer to home you have Northern Ireland. As well as having its own political parties it has, of course, branches of GB Unionist parties (Conservative and Unionist Party and UKIP) and branches or Eire republican parties (Sinn Fein of course but also Fianna Fail) |
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The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 13, 2013 14:45:54 GMT
FF have yet to stand in any NI elections, of course. If you mention them, it should also be pointed out the Labour party now has a NI branch.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 13, 2013 14:47:12 GMT
The Irish Labour Party has stood in NI but not for over sixty years. FF did stand in the 1930s, and had an Assembly Member more recently through defection.
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Post by irish observer on Aug 13, 2013 20:46:52 GMT
The Irish Labour Party has stood in NI but not for over sixty years. FF did stand in the 1930s, and had an Assembly Member more recently through defection. That was de Valera. Gerry McHugh defected from SF some years ago in Fermanagh and joined FF. At the time HQ were accepting individual membership from the north and didn't recognise the name otherwise, as he was an MLA, they probably would have turned him down. I and several others argued unsuccessfully throughout much of the past decade that we should both organise and contest all elections up there except Westminster as the old claim of splitting the Nationalist vote no longer applied. This was resisted by partitionist elements and unfortunately that ship has now sailed I think. Labour in the North were elected to the NI Forum in 1996 as 1 of the 10 parties who sent 2 top-up members to the talks. These talks resulted in the GFA. There have been a few solitary Labour Cllrs. They contested the 1998 Assembly election unsuccessfully but I seem to recall reading that they were prevented by Britain from contesting either subsequent Assembly or Westminster elections. |
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Post by irish observer on Aug 13, 2013 22:43:15 GMT
Would it help if we all lobbied for you? An extra party would add to our enjoyment. Obvz, like you, I am opposed to partitionist elements. I would be glad of any help regardless of how quixotic the motives.  However, I am at present seeking a nomination for the local elections next year and while this process goes on I don't want to begin a campaign that may antagonise more people in HQ. I have antagonised my fair share in my time already! The selection convention is in the hands of the delagates though and not HQ. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 14, 2013 12:38:50 GMT
Just having a quick look at the comparative situation with the Overseas territories of other Countries. Denmark. Its Autonomous constituent countries, Faroe Islands and Greenland both have their own party system. There doesn't seem to be any representation of parties from Denmark proper. Netherlands. The same is true of the Caribbean countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten. Each has its own entirely seperate party system. Finland. The Aland Islands have their own party system France. France of course has both Overseas Departments and overseas Collectivities. they have a mixture of French parties and their own parties. I believe all of those countries - certainly Denmark and France - give parliamentary representation to their overseas territories. That would seem to be the major difference between them and Gib. |
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Post by irish observer on Aug 14, 2013 12:48:27 GMT
Good luck IO, you have my full support, which will manifest itself meanwhile in keeping quiet about my full support. I see you've played the game before my friend. I appreciate your support. |
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Post by Devonian on Aug 14, 2013 15:15:02 GMT
Just having a quick look at the comparative situation with the Overseas territories of other Countries. Denmark. Its Autonomous constituent countries, Faroe Islands and Greenland both have their own party system. There doesn't seem to be any representation of parties from Denmark proper. Netherlands. The same is true of the Caribbean countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten. Each has its own entirely seperate party system. Finland. The Aland Islands have their own party system France. France of course has both Overseas Departments and overseas Collectivities. they have a mixture of French parties and their own parties. I believe all of those countries - certainly Denmark and France - give parliamentary representation to their overseas territories. That would seem to be the major difference between them and Gib. Having just checked I see that the Aland Islands have their own MP in the Finish Parliament. Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten are not represented in the Dutch Parliament but are each represented in the Dutch Council of Ministers where they have one minister each appointed by their own parliaments (see here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Ministers_of_the_Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands). The Autonomous regions of Portugal, Madeira and Azores, are also represented in the Portuguese parliament. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 14, 2013 21:04:23 GMT
Not for over 50 years
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Post by erlend on Aug 15, 2013 14:45:51 GMT
There are Irish peers also holding peerages of the United Kingdom.
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 26, 2021 11:33:03 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 26, 2021 20:20:14 GMT
Isn't that an album by The Fall? |
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Chris from Brum
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What I need is a strong drink and a peer group.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 26, 2021 20:39:08 GMT
Isn't that an album by The Fall? It's the one Mark E Smith was working on when he died. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 26, 2021 20:41:47 GMT
Isn't that an album by The Fall? "I guess that's the lie dream of a Planned Parenthood activist" |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 13, 2023 23:48:50 GMT
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However, I am at present seeking a nomination for the local elections next year and while this process goes on I don't want to begin a campaign that may antagonise more people in HQ. I have antagonised my fair share in my time already! The selection convention is in the hands of the delagates though and not HQ. 
