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Post by Devonian on Jun 17, 2013 5:23:38 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 17, 2013 21:08:26 GMT
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 17, 2013 22:13:09 GMT
two barristers and an Independent. I'll be voting GSD. For a journalist ??
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Post by Devonian on Jun 19, 2013 14:39:26 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 21, 2013 5:14:53 GMT
two barristers and an Independent. I'll be voting GSD. It seems that the GSD candidate also thinks this is a selling point. On her campaign website she says www.votemarlene.com/Her main rival, the GSLP candidate, disagrees however. On his campaign website he reproduces an interview he has done where he makes the following statement deliveringthechange.com/
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Post by Devonian on Jun 23, 2013 9:14:31 GMT
I wonder when was the last time that they held a byelection in Gib? The last by-election in Gibraltar was in 1999. I've done a little searching for info about that election and found the following on the archive of the Panorama newspaper of Gibraltar www.panorama.gi/menu.htm11/01/99 18/01/99 05/02/99
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 23, 2013 9:51:24 GMT
10-vote multi-member FPTP for 17 seats. Possibly the worst electoral system EVER.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 23, 2013 9:55:11 GMT
Be fair, it could be 17-vote multi-member FPTP for 17 seats!
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 23, 2013 10:39:49 GMT
10-vote multi-member FPTP for 17 seats. Possibly the worst electoral system EVER. You'd have a long way to got to beat the old Prussian three-class franchise. Those eligible to vote were men aged over 24, divided by their direct tax revenue into three classes. These three classes were calculated according to how much tax one paid, by dividing the entire range of taxes into thirds. The first class ranged from the highest tax payer on down until one-third of total tax revenue was reached; the second for those with a lower income, down until another one-third of total tax revenue was reached; the third, finally, for the bottom third of tax payers. While the latter were generally poor people paying little to no taxes individually, it could happen that a well-to-do person living in a particularly rich tax district ended up in the third class, which happened to chancellor Bernhard von Bülow in 1903.
Voting took place in public, orally; there was no secret ballot. It was also indirect; representatives known as electors (Wahlmänner) were voted for, each class electing a third of all the electors. The classes of course contained widely differing numbers of people, even though the number of electors was the same for each one: in 1849 the first class constituted 4.7% of the population, the second class 12.7% and the third class 82.6%. This distribution meant that a first-class vote had 17.5 times the value of a third-class vote. A three-class franchise system was also used for local elections in parts of Prussia, one result of which was that the industrialist Alfred Krupp was the only person able to vote for the electors in the first class in Essen.
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Post by Devonian on Jun 23, 2013 20:35:33 GMT
10-vote multi-member FPTP for 17 seats. Possibly the worst electoral system EVER. I have to say it doesn't seem like an ideal system does it. It seems Gibraltar has been looking into electoral reform. Last year a "Commission on Democratic and Political Reform" was appointed and it reported this January. Although it recommends a number of reforms it says that the majority view of the commission was to keep the present system. A minority report was however included at the end which advocated reforming the voting system to one which combines single member FPTP with PR. The full report is here www.parliament.gi/images/report_to_parliament/report_to_parliament_on_democratic_and_parliamentary_reform.pdf
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Post by Devonian on Jun 25, 2013 23:21:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 23:25:19 GMT
10-vote multi-member FPTP for 17 seats. Possibly the worst electoral system EVER. You'd have a long way to got to beat the old Prussian three-class franchise. Those eligible to vote were men aged over 24, divided by their direct tax revenue into three classes. These three classes were calculated according to how much tax one paid, by dividing the entire range of taxes into thirds. The first class ranged from the highest tax payer on down until one-third of total tax revenue was reached; the second for those with a lower income, down until another one-third of total tax revenue was reached; the third, finally, for the bottom third of tax payers. While the latter were generally poor people paying little to no taxes individually, it could happen that a well-to-do person living in a particularly rich tax district ended up in the third class, which happened to chancellor Bernhard von Bülow in 1903.
Voting took place in public, orally; there was no secret ballot. It was also indirect; representatives known as electors (Wahlmänner) were voted for, each class electing a third of all the electors. The classes of course contained widely differing numbers of people, even though the number of electors was the same for each one: in 1849 the first class constituted 4.7% of the population, the second class 12.7% and the third class 82.6%. This distribution meant that a first-class vote had 17.5 times the value of a third-class vote. A three-class franchise system was also used for local elections in parts of Prussia, one result of which was that the industrialist Alfred Krupp was the only person able to vote for the electors in the first class in Essen.Maybe the tories should adopt the prussian system.
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Post by Devonian on Jun 26, 2013 8:21:28 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 29, 2013 15:27:07 GMT
Interviews with all the candidates
Albert Isola of the ruling GSLP
Marlene Nahon of the opposition GSD (also the daughter of a previous Gibraltar Prime Minister the late Sir Joshua Hassan)
Nick Cruz of the PDP which is not represented in parliament at present
And local businessman Bryan Zammit who wants to abolish political parties in Gibraltar
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2013 17:55:59 GMT
Strange how all three major parties are pretty left wing.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 29, 2013 19:23:45 GMT
It's an example of sinistrisme. It's called that because it's a very scary process.
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Post by Devonian on Jul 2, 2013 6:07:35 GMT
Election Broadcasts from
Bryan Zammit
Marlene Nahon
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Post by Devonian on Jul 3, 2013 5:56:00 GMT
Election Broadcasts from
Albert Isola
Nick Cruz
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Post by Devonian on Jul 4, 2013 22:23:33 GMT
Turnout 46.34% - 10,034 votes
Exit poll indicates win for Albert Isola Albert Isola 51.6% Marlene Nahon 37.9% Nick Cruz 7.9% Bryan Zammit 2.5%
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Post by Devonian on Jul 5, 2013 6:03:46 GMT
Final result
Number of votes cast 10,033
Albert Isola - GSLP 4,899 49.8% Marlene Nahon - GSD 3,927 40.0% Nick Cruz - PDP 688 7.0% Bryan Zammit - Ind. 315 3.2%
Spoilt and Blank Ballots 204
Albert Isola will now be brought in as a new member of the Cabinet (under the Gibraltar electoral system all Government MPs are appointed to the cabinet - there are no backbenchers).
Fabian Picardo the Prime Minister is saying that he is happy that the Government has increased its margin of victory in comparison to the general election of 2011.
Nick Cruz is indicating that the PDP is likely to be wound up. The Gibraltar electoral system is one that strongly excludes third parties from being elected (and of course they have no local authorities). At 7.0% the PDP have no prospect of getting any electoral representation.
Bryan Zammit did very badly. People were possibly put off by his idea of building a nuclear power plant in Gibraltar
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