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Post by andrewp on Oct 28, 2022 8:44:45 GMT
With thanks to Twitter, 40 years ago today the Peckham and Birmingham Northfield by elections were held.
Both winners, Harriet Harman and John Spellar are currently MPs
Both runners up, John Redwood and Roger Gale, are also MPs
145 years as MPs between the four of them.
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Post by batman on Oct 29, 2022 22:57:35 GMT
With thanks to Twitter, 40 years ago today the Peckham and Birmingham Northfield by elections were held. Both winners, Harriet Harman and John Spellar are currently MPs Both runners up, John Redwood and Roger Gale, are also MPs 145 years as MPs between the four of them. John Redwood was not the runner-up in the 1982 Peckham by-election. He was third behind Harman & the very prominent SDP candidate, Dick Taverne.
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Post by rockefeller on Oct 31, 2022 8:37:54 GMT
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2022 16:27:44 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office?
The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that!
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 1, 2022 16:34:35 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office? The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that! NO!
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Post by maxque on Nov 1, 2022 16:56:37 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office? The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that! I think Westmorland is considered independent from Yorkshire since the Middle Ages.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 1, 2022 17:03:06 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office? The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that! I think Westmorland is considered independent from Yorkshire since the Middle Ages. 1226 to be precise.
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2022 18:15:43 GMT
Pretty definitive that Sunak’s the first then- thanks!
Incredible that there’s not been a PM from a Yorkshire seat before then.
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Post by YL on Nov 1, 2022 18:26:24 GMT
Pretty definitive that Sunak’s the first then- thanks! Incredible that there’s not been a PM from a Yorkshire seat before then. The last (and only) from an East Midlands constituency was Spencer Perceval (Northampton).
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 1, 2022 18:29:04 GMT
The country was offered the opportunity in 1959, 2001 and 2015 but declined it
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Post by ilerda on Nov 1, 2022 20:45:24 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office? The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that! The Marquess of Rockingham’s seat was Wentworth, in Yorkshire.
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Nov 1, 2022 22:30:38 GMT
Has it been noted on this forum that amazingly Sunak is the first Prime Minister we have ever had to represent a Yorkshire constituency while in that office? The only quibble I've thought of is whether Pitt the Younger's seat of Appleby in 1783-4 might have somehow counted as part of the West Riding back then, but I'm sure someone here can clarify that! The Marquess of Rockingham’s seat was Wentworth, in Yorkshire. That seat is a family seat rather than a parliamentary seat, isn't it? By the way, the Rockingham of the title, like the Grafton of the Dukes of Grafton, was in Northamptonshire. And, when it comes to Prime Ministers representing Yorkshire constituencies, there seems to have been one near-miss. Lord Goderich, the shortest-serving Prime Minister before Liz Truss not to die in office, had been MP for Ripon for 20 years before he was granted his peerage just six months before he rather unexpectedly became Prime Minister, and was promoted again to Earl of Ripon about 5 years later. However, Goderich is/was in Lincolnshire.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 2, 2022 16:23:54 GMT
There is a village in Kentucky called Eighty-Eight. Bill Bryson claims in his book “Mother Tongue: The English Language” that the result of the 1948 presidential election there was Truman 88, Dewey 88. It sounds apocryphal to me, and I haven’t confirmed it from other sources.
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Post by rockefeller on Nov 7, 2022 21:02:32 GMT
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Post by rockefeller on Nov 13, 2022 10:31:27 GMT
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Post by sirbenjamin on Nov 14, 2022 16:36:41 GMT
There is a village in Kentucky called Eighty-Eight. Bill Bryson claims in his book “Mother Tongue: The English Language” that the result of the 1948 presidential election there was Truman 88, Dewey 88. It sounds apocryphal to me, and I haven’t confirmed it from other sources.
Highly unlikely *unless* the area only took on that name /after/ the election result, as a consequence of/homage to it. Which would be rather more plausible.
Which reminds me, I once made a joke to the former MP for Crawley about her famous tattoo, remarking that it was a coincidence that her majority happened to be the same number...
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Post by casualobserver on Nov 14, 2022 22:59:19 GMT
There is a village in Kentucky called Eighty-Eight. Bill Bryson claims in his book “Mother Tongue: The English Language” that the result of the 1948 presidential election there was Truman 88, Dewey 88. It sounds apocryphal to me, and I haven’t confirmed it from other sources. Highly unlikely *unless* the area only took on that name /after/ the election result, as a consequence of/homage to it. Which would be rather more plausible. Which reminds me, I once made a joke to the former MP for Crawley about her famous tattoo, remarking that it was a coincidence that her majority happened to be the same number...
There are probably at least 88 different stories explaining the naming of 88. Here’s another one: www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/why-is-eighty-eight-community-in-kentucky-called-so.html
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Post by batman on Nov 14, 2022 23:29:09 GMT
There is a village in Kentucky called Eighty-Eight. Bill Bryson claims in his book “Mother Tongue: The English Language” that the result of the 1948 presidential election there was Truman 88, Dewey 88. It sounds apocryphal to me, and I haven’t confirmed it from other sources.
Highly unlikely *unless* the area only took on that name /after/ the election result, as a consequence of/homage to it. Which would be rather more plausible.
Which reminds me, I once made a joke to the former MP for Crawley about her famous tattoo, remarking that it was a coincidence that her majority happened to be the same number...
I found it very odd that Laura Moffatt went to the trouble & expense of tattooing her majority on to herself, and then didn't contest the seat in 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2022 12:05:14 GMT
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Post by rockefeller on Nov 17, 2022 6:29:35 GMT
Florida Democrats lost their last statewide office (Agriculture Commissioner).
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