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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 8:50:45 GMT
That seems to me to be more in the category of bleedin' obvious electoral fact, with all due respect. 3 MPs of 5 in one city is interesting.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 23, 2019 10:07:55 GMT
It will mean that Maria Eagle is the only one of the 5 who was an MP before 2010.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 23, 2019 10:16:16 GMT
That seems to me to be more in the category of bleedin' obvious electoral fact, with all due respect. 3 MPs of 5 in one city is interesting. 5 of the 8 Liverpool MPs returned in 1979 were not returned (in Liverpool) in 1983
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 10:41:59 GMT
3 MPs of 5 in one city is interesting. 5 of the 8 Liverpool MPs returned in 1979 were not returned (in Liverpool) in 1983 But the two Conservatives elected in 1979 in Liverpool were elected in 1983 in Crosby (Malcolm Thornton) and South Hams (Anthony Steen). So only 3/8 MPs elected in Liverpool in 1979 were not elected MPs in 1983 (Richard Crawshaw, James Dunn and Eric Ogden, who all defected to the SDP). Two ran as SDP and one (Dunn) stood down.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 23, 2019 11:12:01 GMT
5 of the 8 Liverpool MPs returned in 1979 were not returned (in Liverpool) in 1983 But the two Conservatives elected in 1979 in Liverpool were elected in 1983 in Crosby (Malcolm Thornton) and South Hams (Anthony Steen). So only 3/8 MPs elected in Liverpool in 1979 were not elected MPs in 1983 (Richard Crawshaw, James Dunn and Eric Ogden, who all defected to the SDP). Two ran as SDP and one (Dunn) stood down. That's why I said "(in Liverpool)". As in 1983, the MP for Wavertree is trying their luck elsewhere
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Post by greenhert on Oct 23, 2019 11:15:36 GMT
But the two Conservatives elected in 1979 in Liverpool were elected in 1983 in Crosby (Malcolm Thornton) and South Hams (Anthony Steen). So only 3/8 MPs elected in Liverpool in 1979 were not elected MPs in 1983 (Richard Crawshaw, James Dunn and Eric Ogden, who all defected to the SDP). Two ran as SDP and one (Dunn) stood down. That's why I said "(in Liverpool)". As in 1983, the MP for Wavertree is trying their luck elsewhere Back in 1983, Anthony Steen had no choice as the Wavertree constituency had been abolished, with its (redrawn) wards going to Broadgreen and Mossley Hill mostly. There are no boundary changes this time around.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 23, 2019 11:18:17 GMT
That's why I said "(in Liverpool)". As in 1983, the MP for Wavertree is trying their luck elsewhere Back in 1983, Anthony Steen had no choice as the Wavertree constituency had been abolished, with its (redrawn) wards going to Broadgreen and Mossley Hill mostly. There are no boundary changes this time around. He had the choice of standing in Broad Green which was the successor constituency and was notionally Conservative in 1979 (albeit narrowly). (or indeed in Mossley Hill which also took in part of his old seat and was notionally Conservative by a clear margin)
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 23, 2019 13:07:16 GMT
That seems to me to be more in the category of bleedin' obvious electoral fact, with all due respect. We like those too, just not as much.
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Post by greenhert on Nov 12, 2019 1:12:48 GMT
Kingston & Surbiton has for all six elections since its creation in 1997 had exactly seven candidates on the ballot at each election. For the seventh consecutive election it is currently expected to have seven candidates on the ballot yet again.
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Post by greenhert on Nov 18, 2019 12:56:59 GMT
As it happens, Kingston & Surbiton ended up with 8 candidates on the ballot paper this year.
The leaderboard of longest aggregate ballot papers since 1983 (by-elections are not counted for this purpose) now stands at:
Constituency: | Total # of candidates since 1983 | Average candidate #s per election | Hackney South & Shoreditch | 84 | 8.4 | Bethnal Green & Stepney/Bow | 74 | 7.4 | Sheffield Central | 72 | 7.2 | Cities of London & Westminster | 72 | 7.2 | (Camberwell &) Peckham | 70 | 7 | Vauxhall | 69 | 6.9 | Cardiff Central | 69 | 6.9 | Oxford East | 69 | 6.9 | (Windsor &) Maidenhead | 68 | 6.8 | Uxbridge (& South Ruislip) | 67 | 6.7 |
Kensington has been excluded from the leaderboard because it was split in 1997 between Regent's Park & Kensington North and Kensington & Chelsea (both abolished in 2010); otherwise it would have qualified on candidate numbers.
Several other constituencies have also had aggregate candidate numbers of 67 over the last ten general elections. However, because of the high candidate number surge in Uxbridge & Ruislip South recently, attributed to current Prime Minister Boris Johnson having been its MP since 2015, I have awarded that particular constituency the 10th and final spot on the leaderboard.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 15:38:25 GMT
How many seats have only 3 candidates standing this time?
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 18, 2019 15:54:39 GMT
How many seats have only 3 candidates standing this time? I think somebody is onto this already.
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 18, 2019 16:21:04 GMT
How many seats have only 3 candidates standing this time? Good question. The only one I know of is Cannock Chase.
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Post by PeopleLikeWe on Nov 18, 2019 16:28:16 GMT
Thornbury and Yate is a big three only.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 18, 2019 16:55:48 GMT
Additionally the following seats:
Castle Point Chingford & Woodford Green Chippenham Corby Finchley & Golders Green South Cambridgeshire South West Surrey Southport Stoke South Swindon South Telford Witney
Chorley has three candidates but is obviously a special case (Speaker, Green, Ind (Brexit) )
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 18, 2019 17:49:34 GMT
Additionally the following seats: Castle Point Chingford & Woodford Green Chippenham Corby Finchley & Golders Green South Cambridgeshire South West Surrey Southport Stoke South Swindon South Telford Witney Chorley has three candidates but is obviously a special case (Speaker, Green, Ind (Brexit) ) As is East Belfast.
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Post by iain on Nov 18, 2019 18:02:18 GMT
Additionally the following seats: Castle Point Chingford & Woodford Green Chippenham Corby Finchley & Golders Green South Cambridgeshire South West Surrey Southport Stoke South Swindon South Telford Witney Chorley has three candidates but is obviously a special case (Speaker, Green, Ind (Brexit) ) As is East Belfast. And North Belfast
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Post by PeopleLikeWe on Nov 18, 2019 22:45:38 GMT
Have there ever been any constituencies where the candidate list has been almost identical in a GE? (Not counting the two 1974 ones) Weston-super-Mare with another oddity has 75% of the candidates standing the same as the ones in 2017 (bar UKIP not entering this time). John Penrose the sitting MP is defending his crown for the Conservatives, Labour have the same candidate with our wonderful guy Tim Taylor and the Greens have put up the same candidate with Suneil Basu. Only the Liberal Democrats have a different candidate with Patrick Keating replacing prolific councillor and twice candidate (10 and 17) Mike Bell. Another one, what is the biggest gap between female candidates or even NEVER selected a female candidate for one party in a constituency? I know in WsM we haven't selected a female since 1970, the Tories since 1997 (who lost them the seat However, I am very surprised Sarah Codling the Tory candidate in Bristol East wasn't selected by them to save face here as she's a known local councillor), I don't believe the Lib Dems have ever selected a female neither have the Greens. I remember something that the UKIP candidate in 2017 was the first woman on a ballot paper here since 1997!
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 18, 2019 23:01:47 GMT
Have there ever been any constituencies where the candidate list has been almost identical in a GE? (Not counting the two 1974 ones) Weston-super-Mare with another oddity has 75% of the candidates standing the same as the ones in 2017 (bar UKIP not entering this time). John Penrose the sitting MP is defending his crown for the Conservatives, Labour have the same candidate with our wonderful guy Tim Taylor and the Greens have put up the same candidate with Suneil Basu. Only the Liberal Democrats have a different candidate with Patrick Keating replacing prolific councillor and twice candidate (10 and 17) Mike Bell. Another one, what is the biggest gap between female candidates or even NEVER selected a female candidate for one party in a constituency? I know in WsM we haven't selected a female since 1970, the Tories since 1997 (who lost them the seat However, I am very surprised Sarah Codling the Tory candidate in Bristol East wasn't selected by them to save face here as she's a known local councillor), I don't believe the Lib Dems have ever selected a female neither have the Greens. I remember something that the UKIP candidate in 2017 was the first woman on a ballot paper here since 1997! I don't think it's all that unusual for the same candidates to fight two elections in a row in the same constituency. For instance, Conwy in 1987 and 1992: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conwy_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_1980sCon: Wyn Roberts Lib: Roger Roberts Lab: Betty Williams PC: Rhodri Davies
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Post by andrewp on Nov 18, 2019 23:03:00 GMT
Have there ever been any constituencies where the candidate list has been almost identical in a GE? (Not counting the two 1974 ones) Weston-super-Mare with another oddity has 75% of the candidates standing the same as the ones in 2017 (bar UKIP not entering this time). John Penrose the sitting MP is defending his crown for the Conservatives, Labour have the same candidate with our wonderful guy Tim Taylor and the Greens have put up the same candidate with Suneil Basu. Only the Liberal Democrats have a different candidate with Patrick Keating replacing prolific councillor and twice candidate (10 and 17) Mike Bell. Another one, what is the biggest gap between female candidates or even NEVER selected a female candidate for one party in a constituency? I know in WsM we haven't selected a female since 1970, the Tories since 1997 (who lost them the seat However, I am very surprised Sarah Codling the Tory candidate in Bristol East wasn't selected by them to save face here as she's a known local councillor), I don't believe the Lib Dems have ever selected a female neither have the Greens. I remember something that the UKIP candidate in 2017 was the first woman on a ballot paper here since 1997! An answer to the second part of your question and sticking in the same part of the world, and Iām sure there a lot in this category- the Conservatives have never had a female candidate for Bridgwater or Yeovil
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