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Post by marksenior on Mar 22, 2012 23:36:33 GMT
As the LDs did not stand last May in the 2 wards making up Waltham Cross and the Conservative vote and Labour vote was well down then it is pretty safe to say most LDs just stayed at home
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 22, 2012 23:37:16 GMT
Looks like Richard was telling it how it was upthread, then - though if so it is a bit mystifying why we didn't make more of an effort  |
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Post by marksenior on Mar 22, 2012 23:39:19 GMT
Looks like Richard was telling it how it was upthread, then - though if so it is a bit mystifying why we didn't make more of an effort If Labour had just got out those who voted Labour last May they would have won comfortably |
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Post by toryjim on Mar 22, 2012 23:40:11 GMT
Interesting result in WX then.
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Post by marksenior on Mar 22, 2012 23:49:58 GMT
LD hold Brent majority 37
Teather works her magic again
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Post by marksenior on Mar 22, 2012 23:51:53 GMT
Ind gain in Tavistock
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Post by marksenior on Mar 22, 2012 23:56:45 GMT
Tavistock
Moody 407 Con 256 LD 225 Lab 125 UKIP 78 Worth 57
Brent
LD 1205 Lab 1168 Con 140 Green 79
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Post by richardclemerson on Mar 22, 2012 23:58:10 GMT
Looks like Richard was telling it how it was upthread, then - though if so it is a bit mystifying why we didn't make more of an effort Of course I did, I don't do spin..... I suspect the biggest issue for Labour was that their most effective local campaigner has been AWOL with health problems and the Tory campaign was huge - managed by the Leader of Herts CC who is bloody good at this kind of thing. |
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Post by richardclemerson on Mar 23, 2012 0:00:51 GMT
Byelection result @hertscc Waltham Cross division: C 1,389, Lab 837, UKIP 159, L Dem 76. think LD vote suffered a bit, how many propped up the Tories ? or did not vote at all ? Sorry Ian, not the case. Broxbourne simply doesn't have an effective LD presence in areas that would favour them. In WX & Theobalds they don't campaign at all as their support is, if I'm being very kind, extremely limited. |
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Post by richardclemerson on Mar 23, 2012 0:03:25 GMT
Also bear in mind that in last June's Cheshunt Central by-election (next Borough ward north of WX division) the Lib Dems polled 24 votes....
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Post by nigelashton on Mar 23, 2012 0:17:49 GMT
LD hold Brent majority 37 Teather works her magic again LD majority up from 27 ! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 23, 2012 0:22:01 GMT
Looks like Richard was telling it how it was upthread, then - though if so it is a bit mystifying why we didn't make more of an effort Of course I did, I don't do spin..... I suspect the biggest issue for Labour was that their most effective local campaigner has been AWOL with health problems and the Tory campaign was huge - managed by the Leader of Herts CC who is bloody good at this kind of thing. Its a shame he abandoned his seat in Watford to the LDs in 2009 then, when a decent campaign might have saved it |
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Post by richardclemerson on Mar 23, 2012 1:06:41 GMT
Of course I did, I don't do spin..... I suspect the biggest issue for Labour was that their most effective local campaigner has been AWOL with health problems and the Tory campaign was huge - managed by the Leader of Herts CC who is bloody good at this kind of thing. Its a shame he abandoned his seat in Watford to the LDs in 2009 then, when a decent campaign might have saved it Fair comment but I suspect Nascot Park was a lost cause |
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 23, 2012 9:09:47 GMT
Another typically mixed week - seem to be having a lot of those lately.
Labour vote is up in percentage terms everywhere except Devon, but they failed to take either marginal which they should have been in with a shout in.
The Conservatives and LDs will be pleased with their respective holds. Both will probably be a little disappointed at West Devon, but given circumstances of election, the winner was not that surprising. Doubt any of the three main parties really bothered about Tendring
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 23, 2012 9:12:25 GMT
But Labour's share in Waltham Cross was down, not only compared with May last year but also compared with May 2010 - it is only up when compared with the abysmal year of 2009
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Post by toryjim on Mar 23, 2012 9:16:06 GMT
Incumbency can work against as well as for a candidate. I would agree that Nascot Park was probably a tough proposition last time out. Candidates don't move seats unless there is a good reason. Looking ahead though it looks a juicy ward for next time.
The big concern from the WX result though is feed over into borough elections in a few weeks. Of course the elections are a different prospect but with the vagaries of all out elections plus a recent high intensity campaign in the area could make for interesting developments.
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Post by toryjim on Mar 23, 2012 9:23:26 GMT
But Labour's share in Waltham Cross was down, not only compared with May last year but also compared with May 2010 - it is only up when compared with the abysmal year of 2009 Which is interesting given that Labour should be harvesting votes as the only feasible alternative to a 2 party national govt. |
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Post by anthony on Mar 23, 2012 10:15:20 GMT
I think they need to take a leaf out of Liverpool or Manchester's book when it comes to their communication strategy about the cuts. Prize for the most ironic statement of the morning . . . |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 23, 2012 11:20:17 GMT
But Labour's share in Waltham Cross was down, not only compared with May last year but also compared with May 2010 - it is only up when compared with the abysmal year of 2009 Which is interesting given that Labour should be harvesting votes as the only feasible alternative to a 2 party national govt. Which would be a valid comment if WC was typical of our by-election performances recently. However, it is not......... I am more disappointed in the Brent result, if anything - given how fervently I wish to see the back of Teather  |
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Post by richardclemerson on Mar 23, 2012 11:28:00 GMT
Be interesting to see if the winning Tory candidate in WX is now asked to fight one of the new Borough wards that covers her division (Cheshunt South & Theobalds and Waltham Cross Wards).
She is currently a Rosedale Borough Councillor but as this seat is being subsumed by she is earmarked to stand in Flamstead End.
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