|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 3, 2024 11:37:38 GMT
Does anyone know where I can find audio of the whole debate or even better if anyone has it please?
All that I have are Margaret Thatcher and Michael Foot’s speeches, excerpts from William Whitelaw and Gerry Fitt and the division itself
|
|
|
|
Post by mattbewilson on Nov 3, 2024 11:44:52 GMT
Does anyone know where I can find audio of the whole debate or even better if anyone has it please? I've got the play about it and you can watch a documentary on YouTube but that's it I'm afraid |
|
cathyc
Non-Aligned
Posts: 1,094
Member is Online
|
Post by cathyc on Nov 3, 2024 11:51:44 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 3, 2024 12:28:27 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 3, 2024 13:02:50 GMT
Hopefully they’ll show it again for the 50th anniversary, I doubt it though. Out of interest was it only the speeches of frontbenchers that were broadcast? |
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 3, 2024 13:10:02 GMT
Doesn’t work unfortunately |
|
|
|
Post by swanarcadian on Nov 3, 2024 13:25:44 GMT
|
|
cathyc
Non-Aligned
Posts: 1,094
Member is Online
|
Post by cathyc on Nov 3, 2024 13:36:01 GMT
On Bank Holidays when the BBC Parliament Channel sometimes plays coverage of the overnight election nights of the past they have also run the hours long coverage of the night of the '79 VONC. So it must still exist. Just looked on iPlayer and can't find it but maybe Youtube or some other source.
|
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 3, 2024 13:37:31 GMT
On Bank Holidays when the BBC Parliament Channel sometimes plays coverage of the overnight election nights of the past they have also run the hours long coverage of the night of the '79 VONC. So it must still exist. Just looked on iPlayer and can't find it but maybe Youtube or some other source. They showed the debate on the fourtieth anniversary, if only I’d recorded it then. Definitely not on iPlayer it hasn’t been repeated in 2019 and YouTube isn’t much better, there’s the Tonight programme and the documentary and that’s it |
|
cathyc
Non-Aligned
Posts: 1,094
Member is Online
|
Post by cathyc on Nov 3, 2024 13:48:37 GMT
On Bank Holidays when the BBC Parliament Channel sometimes plays coverage of the overnight election nights of the past they have also run the hours long coverage of the night of the '79 VONC. So it must still exist. Just looked on iPlayer and can't find it but maybe Youtube or some other source. They showed the debate on the fourtieth anniversary, if only I’d recorded it then. Definitely not on iPlayer it hasn’t been repeated in 2019 and YouTube isn’t much better, there’s the Tonight programme and the documentary and that’s it It won't link to the Youtube footage from another site, but if you search for '1979 Vote of no confidence' on there it produces several lengthy chunks. |
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 3, 2024 13:56:18 GMT
On Bank Holidays when the BBC Parliament Channel sometimes plays coverage of the overnight election nights of the past they have also run the hours long coverage of the night of the '79 VONC. So it must still exist. Just looked on iPlayer and can't find it but maybe Youtube or some other source. They showed the debate on the fourtieth anniversary, if only I’d recorded it then. It was the same 3 hr 40 minute 'edited highlights' package shown in 2009. It's just possible someone did record it in 2009 and is currently ripping it onto a hard drive to check, of course. |
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 3, 2024 14:58:34 GMT
What was included:
Debate start to the conclusion of Donald Stewart's speech - cols 461-491 (3:34 pm - 5.09 pm)
Gwynfor Evans - cols 495-500 (5:20 pm - 5:36 pm)
Jock Bruce-Gardyne, Gerry Fitt - cols 512-522 (6:10 pm - 6:48 pm)
Michael McGuire - cols 544-549 (7:55 pm - 8:11 pm)
Wind-ups from William Whitelaw and Michael Foot - cols 569-584 (9:08 pm - 10 pm)
Division result announcement and aftermath - cols 589-590 (10:18 pm - 10:20 pm)
|
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 3, 2024 16:48:29 GMT
Oh look
|
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 3, 2024 19:04:14 GMT
|
|
The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
Posts: 38,889
|
Post by The Bishop on Nov 7, 2024 12:54:38 GMT
Michael Foot's full speech from that debate used to be on YouTube, no idea if it still is but if so it is well worth listening to.
|
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 7, 2024 14:45:16 GMT
Michael Foot's full speech from that debate used to be on YouTube, no idea if it still is but if so it is well worth listening to. It is, what I noted was him saying the Labour Party saved us in 1940 and brought in Churchill, whether true or not you can imagine the Tories reaction to that. He pissed them off even further with something about reactionary policies as well. A brilliant speech nevertheless of wit, eloquency and passion. On another note, with the death of Sir John Nott, how many MP’s from 79 are still with us? |
|
|
|
Post by swanarcadian on Nov 7, 2024 15:12:01 GMT
Michael Foot's full speech from that debate used to be on YouTube, no idea if it still is but if so it is well worth listening to. It is, what I noted was him saying the Labour Party saved us in 1940 and brought in Churchill, whether true or not you can imagine the Tories reaction to that. He pissed them off even further with something about reactionary policies as well. A brilliant speech nevertheless of wit, eloquency and passion. On another note, with the death of Sir John Nott, how many MP’s from 79 are still with us? might know without having to check the list on Wikipedia. There are none still serving who were elected that year. |
|
|
|
Post by swingometer on Nov 7, 2024 15:33:15 GMT
It is, what I noted was him saying the Labour Party saved us in 1940 and brought in Churchill, whether true or not you can imagine the Tories reaction to that. He pissed them off even further with something about reactionary policies as well. A brilliant speech nevertheless of wit, eloquency and passion. On another note, with the death of Sir John Nott, how many MP’s from 79 are still with us? might know without having to check the list on Wikipedia. There are none still serving who were elected that year. Not the 79 intake, October 74 I meant sorry |
|
|
|
Post by greatkingrat on Nov 7, 2024 16:24:15 GMT
Still over 100 MPs left who were members at the time of the no confidence debate.
Still living MPs elected before the 1970 general election.
1959 GE: Stratton Mills
1959-64 BE: Dick Taverne, Bill Rodgers, Patrick Duffy
1964 GE: Roy Hattersley, James Hamilton, Terence Higgins, Michael Jopling, Patrick McNair-Wilson, Shirley Summerskill
1964-66 BE: David Steel
1966 GE: Donald Anderson, Edwin Brooks, Stanley Henig, Michael Heseltine, David Howell, David Owen, John Pardoe, Ted Rowlands, Alan L Williams, David Winnick
1966-70 BE: Les Huckfield, Fred Silvester, Kenneth Baker, Bernadette Devlin, Christopher Ward, Jeffrey Archer, Tom King, Jim Sillars
|
|
carlton43
Reform Party
Posts: 50,878 
Member is Online
|
Post by carlton43 on Nov 7, 2024 16:36:31 GMT
There are NOT 100 MPs left from that vote after 45-years.
|
|
