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Post by islington on Jun 28, 2024 20:20:12 GMT
I'm starting this for reviews and recommendations.
I'd be very interested in anyone's thoughts on the new Furlong & Jennings effort, called (I think) 'The Changing Electoral Map of England and Wales'.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 30, 2024 11:36:25 GMT
Interesting they chose to publish that just *before* the election - I suppose an updated edition will appear before too long.
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 30, 2024 15:03:13 GMT
Interesting they chose to publish that just *before* the election - I suppose an updated edition will appear before too long. They say not because the book should still be relevant assuming a Labour landslide on Thursday. You get a ton of analysis for your £30 (special offer also available). |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 7, 2024 17:49:38 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Aug 8, 2024 6:15:09 GMT
British Public Opinion, 1937-2000: The Gallup Polls (a sort of predecessor reference guide to opinion polls before Mark Pack’s online spreadsheets)
British Parliamentary Constituencies: A Statistical Compendium (contains the 1979 notionals and 1983 results, and data from the 1981 census, among other tables)
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Aug 8, 2024 8:19:28 GMT
British Public Opinion, 1937-2000: The Gallup Polls (a sort of predecessor reference guide to opinion polls before Mark Pack’s online spreadsheets) British Parliamentary Constituencies: A Statistical Compendium (contains the 1979 notionals and 1983 results, and data from the 1981 census, among other tables) Available via the Internet Archive in conjunction with a university library archive.org/details/britishparliamen00crew |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 8, 2024 12:35:43 GMT
Ah, remember leafing through that in the local library back in the day. There was also a BBC/ITN guide containing the notional 1979 results on the 1983 boundaries.
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Post by swanarcadian on Aug 8, 2024 15:54:22 GMT
A Citizen’s Guide to Electoral Reform was a good read. It was in my local Waterstones around the time of the AV referendum (in which I voted No).
There are plenty of other books on the subject of electoral reform if that’s your thing; too many to choose from in fact.
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Post by afleitch on Aug 9, 2024 15:44:48 GMT
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 23, 2024 12:39:57 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Aug 27, 2024 7:46:24 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978?
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 27, 2024 8:40:39 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978? This IS Iain Dale of whom you speak! |
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Post by hullenedge on Aug 27, 2024 8:54:41 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978? This IS Iain Dale of whom you speak! I bought his recent GE campaigns book. Some chapters excellent ( mrtoad) but others missed their mark. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 27, 2024 12:07:41 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978? You are quite correct, but still a bit mystifying why Rochdale this year makes the cut - as opposed to the surely rather more consequential Bradford West in 2012. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 27, 2024 13:16:24 GMT
Oh God he’s making lists again.
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Post by nyx on Aug 27, 2024 14:45:34 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978? You are quite correct, but still a bit mystifying why Rochdale this year makes the cut - as opposed to the surely rather more consequential Bradford West in 2012. Rochdale is one of the more unique by-election results thanks to the circumstances with the Labour suspension of their candidate and David Tully's success. |
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Post by greenhert on Aug 28, 2024 18:56:00 GMT
Not sure about the selection but where do you draw a line? Hammersmith South, 1949? Sunderland South, 1953? Ealing South, 1958? Bromsgrove, 1971? Manchester Moss Side, 1978? None of those count. However in all fairness most of the by-elections in that list definitely deserve to be there-especially those from the 1980s and 2020s. And Iain Dale should know by now the first Eastleigh by-election happened in 1994, not 1993, and that the Greenwich by-election in question happened in 1987, not 1986. He also did not get them in quite the right order-the Carmarthen by-election took place after the Kingston upon Hull North by-election of 1966! |
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Post by greenhert on Aug 28, 2024 19:01:59 GMT
Also, there are a few by-elections that I believe Iain Dale should have included on his list on that post of his on X but did not-such as the Sheffield Attercliffe by-election of 1909.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 28, 2024 19:20:46 GMT
Also, there are a few by-elections that I believe Iain Dale should have included on his list on that post of his on X but did not-such as the Sheffield Attercliffe by-election of 1909. Neath 1945 |
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Post by matureleft on Aug 28, 2024 21:06:12 GMT
Cook and Ramsden had a book entitled By-elections in British politics. I had a copy but may have disposed of it (I haven’t unpacked the books yet) in my last move. It wasn’t particularly useful.
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