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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:13:27 GMT
Where did the 400,000 extra people come from?
3rd May 1979 - 41,080,740 people eligible
7th June 1979 - 41,500,281 people eligible
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Post by Strontium Dog on Apr 24, 2024 22:20:58 GMT
People prompted to register for the European elections?
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:24:50 GMT
People prompted to register for the European elections? Why would they bother for the Euros when they didn’t for the general? Not that many people could’ve turned 18 surely
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:27:24 GMT
People prompted to register for the European elections? Why would they bother for the Euros when they didn’t for the general? Not that many people could’ve turned 18 surely Actually I’ve answered my own question Let’s say 41000000 were aged 16 to 100 Divide that by 84 and you get 500,000!!! THREAD CLOSED!!!!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 24, 2024 22:29:40 GMT
The total 1979 electoral register, as first published, was 41,569,787. There were about 50,000 attainers who turned 18 between 4 May and 7 June, plus about 1,000 Peers who were disqualified from Parliamentary elections; the remaining difference would be made up of those who were resident on 10 October 1978 but were omitted from the register and made a successful late claim.
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:30:25 GMT
Why would they bother for the Euros when they didn’t for the general? Not that many people could’ve turned 18 surely Actually I’ve answered my own question Let’s say 41000000 were aged 16 to 100 Divide that by 84 and you get 500,000!!! THREAD CLOSED!!!! Plot twist: I don’t think 500,000 people could’ve turned 100 to be fair, new British citizens perhaps?
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:33:12 GMT
The total 1979 electoral register, as first published, was 41,569,787. There were about 50,000 attainers who turned 18 between 4 May and 7 June, plus about 1,000 Peers who were disqualified from Parliamentary elections; the remaining difference would be made up of those who were resident on 10 October 1978 but were omitted from the register and made a successful late claim. Also to be included are 40,000 prisoners, including those on remand.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 24, 2024 22:43:49 GMT
I don't know what relevance prisoners on remand have.
Can I just point out that the actual total Parliamentary electorate on 3 May 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,095,649, and the total European Parliamentary electorate on 7 June 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,155,166.
(Source: British Electoral Facts ed. Rallings and Thrasher)
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:44:37 GMT
I don't know what relevance prisoners on remand have. Can I just point out that the actual total Parliamentary electorate on 3 May 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,095,649, and the total European Parliamentary electorate on 7 June 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,155,166. (Source: British Electoral Facts ed. Rallings and Thrasher) That makes sense know thanks for clearing that up
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 22:48:36 GMT
I don't know what relevance prisoners on remand have. Can I just point out that the actual total Parliamentary electorate on 3 May 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,095,649, and the total European Parliamentary electorate on 7 June 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,155,166. (Source: British Electoral Facts ed. Rallings and Thrasher) Prisoners can’t vote I believe
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Post by johnloony on Apr 24, 2024 23:26:39 GMT
Where did the 400,000 extra people come from? 3rd May 1979 - 41,080,740 people eligible 7th June 1979 - 41,500,281 people eligible Never mind the rest of the thread; where did you get those numbers from?
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Post by swingometer on Apr 24, 2024 23:47:49 GMT
Where did the 400,000 extra people come from? 3rd May 1979 - 41,080,740 people eligible 7th June 1979 - 41,500,281 people eligible Never mind the rest of the thread; where did you get those numbers from? Got the turnout from Wikipedia divided that by the turnout percentage and multiplied it by 100. (I was in the bottom set throughout my secondary school days)
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 25, 2024 5:30:23 GMT
I don't know what relevance prisoners on remand have. Can I just point out that the actual total Parliamentary electorate on 3 May 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,095,649, and the total European Parliamentary electorate on 7 June 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,155,166. (Source: British Electoral Facts ed. Rallings and Thrasher) Is Gibraltar part of the difference there?
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Post by Wisconsin on Apr 25, 2024 6:24:19 GMT
I don't know what relevance prisoners on remand have. Can I just point out that the actual total Parliamentary electorate on 3 May 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,095,649, and the total European Parliamentary electorate on 7 June 1979 in the United Kingdom was 41,155,166. (Source: British Electoral Facts ed. Rallings and Thrasher) Is Gibraltar part of the difference there? It seems unlikely. The franchise wasn’t extended to Gibraltar until after an ECtHR judgment from 1999.
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 25, 2024 10:14:52 GMT
The total 1979 electoral register, as first published, was 41,569,787. There were about 50,000 attainers who turned 18 between 4 May and 7 June, plus about 1,000 Peers who were disqualified from Parliamentary elections; the remaining difference would be made up of those who were resident on 10 October 1978 but were omitted from the register and made a successful late claim. When did registration to allow people to get the vote on their actual relevant birthday rather than requiring them to have met it on a date (*) in the registration process? And when did rolling registration come in? (And I wonder how many whose 21st birthday was the day after the qualifying date realised they were legally 21 on the day itself?) I think the switch from residency for a period to residency on a particular day came in the 1949 act (despite reference to it passing the buck on determining residency to the principles of interpreting clauses in the 1918 act that had not come to court).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 25, 2024 10:51:32 GMT
The total 1979 electoral register, as first published, was 41,569,787. There were about 50,000 attainers who turned 18 between 4 May and 7 June, plus about 1,000 Peers who were disqualified from Parliamentary elections; the remaining difference would be made up of those who were resident on 10 October 1978 but were omitted from the register and made a successful late claim. When did registration to allow people to get the vote on their actual relevant birthday rather than requiring them to have met it on a date (*) in the registration process? And when did rolling registration come in? (And I wonder how many whose 21st birthday was the day after the qualifying date realised they were legally 21 on the day itself?) I think the switch from residency for a period to residency on a particular day came in the 1949 act (despite reference to it passing the buck on determining residency to the principles of interpreting clauses in the 1918 act that had not come to court). Provision for 'attainers' who came of age during the currency of the electoral register was added in the Representation of the People Act 1969, as part of the lowering of the voting age to 18.
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Post by islington on Apr 25, 2024 11:20:51 GMT
When did registration to allow people to get the vote on their actual relevant birthday rather than requiring them to have met it on a date (*) in the registration process? And when did rolling registration come in? (And I wonder how many whose 21st birthday was the day after the qualifying date realised they were legally 21 on the day itself?) I think the switch from residency for a period to residency on a particular day came in the 1949 act (despite reference to it passing the buck on determining residency to the principles of interpreting clauses in the 1918 act that had not come to court). Provision for 'attainers' who came of age during the currency of the electoral register was added in the Representation of the People Act 1969, as part of the lowering of the voting age to 18. So does that mean that previously, to register to vote you had to be of age (i.e. 21) by the compilation date for the register?
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Post by swingometer on Apr 25, 2024 11:31:57 GMT
Provision for 'attainers' who came of age during the currency of the electoral register was added in the Representation of the People Act 1969, as part of the lowering of the voting age to 18. So does that mean that previously, to register to vote you had to be of age (i.e. 21) by the compilation date for the register? Perhaps 19, two years before same like today
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 25, 2024 11:45:03 GMT
Provision for 'attainers' who came of age during the currency of the electoral register was added in the Representation of the People Act 1969, as part of the lowering of the voting age to 18. So does that mean that previously, to register to vote you had to be of age (i.e. 21) by the compilation date for the register? Yes, it did. The change to allow birthdates to be put on the register was recommended by the Speaker's Conference - see the Letter dated 8th February, 1966 from Mr. Speaker to the Prime Minister (Cmnd 2917).
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 25, 2024 15:23:24 GMT
Certainly when I found my parents in the register in the mid-1960s there were no birthdays listed, and they just suddenly appeared in the November after they turned 21.
(What was the cut-off date then? I have 25th October in mind.)
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