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Post by stb12 on Mar 14, 2024 1:25:20 GMT
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Post by YL on Mar 14, 2024 17:27:21 GMT
Almanac profileCandidatesMuhammad Azeem (Workers Party) Hilary Benn* (Lab) Janet Bickerdike (Christian People's Alliance) Ed Carlisle (Green) Karen Cooksley (Con) Niko Omilana (nd) George Sykes (Lib Dem) Daniel Whetstone (SDP)
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Post by YL on Jun 7, 2024 16:24:07 GMT
8 candidates listed here.
Niko Omilana seems to be listed both here and in Leeds East. I thought you weren't allowed to do that any more.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 7, 2024 16:35:01 GMT
8 candidates listed here. Niko Omilana seems to be listed both here and in Leeds East. I thought you weren't allowed to do that any more. You are not due to the Electoral Administration Act 2006 which specifically prevents any candidate standing in more than one constituency simultaneously. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 7, 2024 16:36:59 GMT
8 candidates listed here. Niko Omilana seems to be listed both here and in Leeds East. I thought you weren't allowed to do that any more. It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. |
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Post by YL on Jun 7, 2024 19:31:06 GMT
8 candidates listed here. Niko Omilana seems to be listed both here and in Leeds East. I thought you weren't allowed to do that any more. It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. As discussed elsewhere, the explanation may be that several different people are standing under his name. |
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 7, 2024 19:50:08 GMT
It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. As discussed elsewhere, the explanation may be that several different people are standing under his name. The same individual is standing against Sunak in Richmond & Northallerton. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 7, 2024 19:53:47 GMT
It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. As discussed elsewhere, the explanation may be that several different people are standing under his name. Hmm I think a change in the law then. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 7, 2024 20:05:57 GMT
8 candidates listed here. Niko Omilana seems to be listed both here and in Leeds East. I thought you weren't allowed to do that any more. It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. q.v. my comments in the Richmond & Northallerton thread |
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 12, 2024 15:14:23 GMT
It's not allowed. I'm minded to email the councils and see what be done, if anything. As discussed elsewhere, the explanation may be that several different people are standing under his name. YouTuber Niko Omilana named as candidate in 11 constituencies - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm55x95xj54o |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 12, 2024 15:34:33 GMT
As discussed elsewhere, the explanation may be that several different people are standing under his name. YouTuber Niko Omilana named as candidate in 11 constituencies - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm55x95xj54oHis statement that " We attempted to run Niko Omilana in multiple places across the country and somehow we managed to make it happen" is carefully worded, and seems to be in line with my theory that they are 11 different people standing with "known as" names. As I pointed out before: |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2024 16:03:02 GMT
They aren't "known as" names - the Notice of Election Agents would show if they were people using "known as" to appear under a different name on the ballot paper, and in every case I have seen, it names the candidate as Niko Omilana.
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 12, 2024 16:05:41 GMT
They aren't "known as" names - the Notice of Election Agents would show if they were people using "known as" to appear under a different name on the ballot paper, and in every case I have seen, it names the candidate as Niko Omilana. Will this be a problem? Is it allowed? |
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Post by kvasir on Jun 12, 2024 16:20:08 GMT
They aren't "known as" names - the Notice of Election Agents would show if they were people using "known as" to appear under a different name on the ballot paper, and in every case I have seen, it names the candidate as Niko Omilana. Will this be a problem? Is it allowed? You don't need to change your name by deed poll to change your name. I believe that you can just change your name unilaterally. Though I am not an expert in this. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2024 16:25:27 GMT
They aren't "known as" names - the Notice of Election Agents would show if they were people using "known as" to appear under a different name on the ballot paper, and in every case I have seen, it names the candidate as Niko Omilana. Will this be a problem? Is it allowed? A single candidate standing in multiple constituencies is explicitly unlawful. However that may not be what is happening. Note that the 'Niko Omilana' candidacies all seem to give home addresses in the constituency in which they're standing, which would be difficult if they are the same person. What would help illuminate things is that the full nomination form also requires the candidate to state a date of birth - if these are not the same then plainly the candidates are not all the same person. There are a number of criminal offences potentially engaged here but without further information not publicly available, it's difficult to say if there is a clear indication of which specific one appears to have been broken (if any). |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2024 16:27:23 GMT
Will this be a problem? Is it allowed? You don't need to change your name by deed poll to change your name. I believe that you can just change your name unilaterally. Though I am not an expert in this. Indeed. You can use any name you like provided it is not for the purposes of fraud. A deed poll is a unilateral legal instrument which can be used to formally record the fact that someone has changed their name. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 16:29:43 GMT
Will this be a problem? Is it allowed? A single candidate standing in multiple constituencies is explicitly unlawful. However that may not be what is happening. Note that the 'Niko Omilana' candidacies all seem to give home addresses in the constituency in which they're standing, which would be difficult if they are the same person. What would help illuminate things is that the full nomination form also requires the candidate to state a date of birth - if these are not the same then plainly the candidates are not all the same person. There are a number of criminal offences potentially engaged here but without further information not publicly available, it's difficult to say if there is a clear indication of which specific one appears to have been broken (if any). Let us hope that they can all be successfully prosecuted and heavily fined to stop this sort of nonsense stone dead. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jun 12, 2024 17:58:09 GMT
You don't need to change your name by deed poll to change your name. I believe that you can just change your name unilaterally. Though I am not an expert in this. Indeed. You can use any name you like provided it is not for the purposes of fraud. A deed poll is a unilateral legal instrument which can be used to formally record the fact that someone has changed their name. Correct and most institutions will accept the name change based on trust or a written signed statement at most. A few, like banks may insist on deed poll change, but most won't. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 12, 2024 19:12:18 GMT
A single candidate standing in multiple constituencies is explicitly unlawful. However that may not be what is happening. Note that the 'Niko Omilana' candidacies all seem to give home addresses in the constituency in which they're standing, which would be difficult if they are the same person. What would help illuminate things is that the full nomination form also requires the candidate to state a date of birth - if these are not the same then plainly the candidates are not all the same person. There are a number of criminal offences potentially engaged here but without further information not publicly available, it's difficult to say if there is a clear indication of which specific one appears to have been broken (if any). Let us hope that they can all be successfully prosecuted and heavily fined to stop this sort of nonsense stone dead. If they are all different people (and I believe that they are), then they haven't done anything illegal. The only thing "wrong" with it is that it is a misuse / abuse / stretching of the "commonly known as" formula. In recent years, it has become particularly noticeable that several candidate sin parliamentary by-elections have stated that their name is NAME and they are commonly known as STUPID SLOGAN. Current law allows "Stupid Slogan" to appear on the ballot paper as if it were their real name, or as if it really were their commonly-used nickname. (This has often been used as a dodge by people who can't be bothered to get a party name registered properly, so they are pretending to be Independent candidates). I am aware that you prefer a much more strict system in which only real names are used, but the law hasn't quite caught up with your way of thinking yet. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 12, 2024 19:16:24 GMT
Let us hope that they can all be successfully prosecuted and heavily fined to stop this sort of nonsense stone dead. If they are all different people (and I believe that they are), then they haven't done anything illegal. The only thing "wrong" with it is that it is a misuse / abuse / stretching of the "commonly known as" formula. In recent years, it has become particularly noticeable that several candidate sin parliamentary by-elections have stated that their name is NAME and they are commonly known as STUPID SLOGAN. Current law allows "Stupid Slogan" to appear on the ballot paper as if it were their real name, or as if it really were their commonly-used nickname. (This has often been used as a dodge by people who can't be bothered to get a party name registered properly, so they are pretending to be Independent candidates). I am aware that you prefer a much more strict system in which only real names are used, but the law hasn't quite caught up with your way of thinking yet. I don't think the law needs to be absolutely tightened to restrict all breathing, as it were, though this case has tested things to an extent which perhaps was not envisaged. Social media may well encourage these stunts to happen more often. One to consider. |
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