stb12
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Post by stb12 on Mar 14, 2024 1:19:33 GMT
Doncaster East and the Isle of Axholme
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YL
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Post by YL on Mar 14, 2024 7:34:11 GMT
Almanac profileCandidatesNick Fletcher* (Con) Paul Garrett (Green) Michael Longfellow (Climate Party) Irwen Martin (Reform UK) Lee Pitcher (Lab) Nicola Turner (Lib Dem)
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right
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Post by right on Apr 11, 2024 17:22:13 GMT
Are we seeing a potential Reform defection?
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jun 7, 2024 16:32:00 GMT
6 Candidates including Climate Party
No workers Party
Nick Fletcher* (Con)
Paul Garrett (Green)
Michael LONGFELLOW (Climate Party)
Irwen Martin (Reform UK)
Lee Pitcher (Lab)
Nicola Turner (Lib Dem)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 3:02:22 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 19, 2024 5:08:18 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? But Fletcher is very much UKIP adjacent, so Reform should perform worse than what one would expect in this type of constituency. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 9:04:26 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? |
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stb12
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Post by stb12 on Jun 19, 2024 9:15:39 GMT
I can’t edit a poll so it would need to be removed and started again. Is there much evidence that Reform are in contention for a seat like this? Even in 2019 when Labour were damaged in Northern Brexit heartlands the Brexit Party only notionally got 10% here
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Post by Ports on Jun 19, 2024 9:25:12 GMT
I can’t edit a poll so it would need to be removed and started again. Is there much evidence that Reform are in contention for a seat like this? Even in 2019 when Labour were damaged in Northern Brexit heartlands the Brexit Party only notionally got 10% here There's no projection from any outfit that has the top two as anything but Labour and the Conservatives here. Leave it as is I say. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 19, 2024 10:18:08 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? Please use 'Have' and not 'Get' which is an ugly American misusage which actually hurts when I see or hear it. Many younger people are using it when ordering food or drinks. It has a grating effect on some of us who still value style and quality in our language. This is a general observation 'at large' and not personally directed to you, but I am astonished that an educator and 'Balliol Man' would use it! It shows how deeply the dumbing down of general style and linguistic literacy has advanced in Britain. My few remaining friends in Italy and France deploy far better grammar and syntax and a much superior style to most people under 45 that I have acquaintance with in Britain. We are ever descending into buzzwords, cliche and diminished vocabulary to make up for general deficiencies and a complete lack of interest in expressing oneself in good english. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 19, 2024 10:49:00 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? The constituency did not exist in 2015. |
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Post by batman on Jun 19, 2024 11:04:39 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? Please use 'Have' and not 'Get' which is an ugly American misusage which actually hurts when I see or hear it. Many younger people are using it when ordering food or drinks. It has a grating effect on some of us who still value style and quality in our language. no doubt if Carlton or I were barmen, and a young customer asked “can I get a pint of Neck Oil” or such like, we would reply “no Sir/Madam, I shall serve it to you” |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 19, 2024 12:39:57 GMT
Please use 'Have' and not 'Get' which is an ugly American misusage which actually hurts when I see or hear it. Many younger people are using it when ordering food or drinks. It has a grating effect on some of us who still value style and quality in our language. no doubt if Carlton or I were barmen, and a young customer asked “can I get a pint of Neck Oil” or such like, we would reply “no Sir/Madam, I shall serve it to you” A nuanced response I think ...... "Of course you 'may' 'have' anything within our scope of offerings, and I shall 'get' them for you. We do stock Neck Oil, Sir, as it enjoys a popularity amongst the groundlings whilst that fad lasts. But if I may, please can I direct your attention to the quality end of the dispense, where we have Timothy Taylors, Barnsley, Farmers Blonde and a rather subtle New Zealand IPA. I feel sure that a gentleman of quality such as yourself, probably missed them when entering! What is your table number Sir? May I bring your a menu? Very nice to welcome you as a valued customer." |
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Post by batman on Jun 19, 2024 12:44:48 GMT
(gets picked up off the floor by colleague after being bopped on the nose by said customer)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 12:53:33 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? The constituency did not exist in 2015. Point taken. I was estimating. Pete Whitehead do you have notionals, please? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 12:55:26 GMT
UKIP: 24% here in 2015 and Reform now poll about 5% ahead of UKIP's 2015 national result. May we get a Reform option in the pol please AdminSTB ? Please use 'Have' and not 'Get' ..,. I am astonished that an educator and 'Balliol Man' would use it! That is slander. I am a Trinity man - "the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans" to quote Lord Peter Wimsey. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 19, 2024 13:31:12 GMT
Please use 'Have' and not 'Get' ..,. I am astonished that an educator and 'Balliol Man' would use it! That is slander. I am a Trinity man - "the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans" to quote Lord Peter Wimsey. I prefer the usage 'a slander'. But slander is a much diminished and oft misunderstood legal term. Defamation and libel are the more common forms of attempted legal redress. Slander is much concerned with the intent of the issuer and overtly concerned with female chastity! My comment was not a slander because it was an honest mistake; because I offer an immediate unconditional apology when advised of the facts; because it would be difficult to construct an argument around the term 'Balliol Man' being in any way a slur on character or academic achievement. Your quote from a fictional person is unknown to me and I don't follow the purpose of it? You make no comment at all on the substantive issue of the misuse of 'Get'! |
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The Bishop
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Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 19, 2024 13:42:35 GMT
Tories had a good result at a local byelection in Axholme recently, which - all due caveats as ever - may at least indicate their vote isn't in total collapse here.
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YL
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Either Labour leaning or Lib Dem leaning but not sure which
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Post by YL on Jun 19, 2024 14:40:36 GMT
I can’t edit a poll so it would need to be removed and started again. Is there much evidence that Reform are in contention for a seat like this? Even in 2019 when Labour were damaged in Northern Brexit heartlands the Brexit Party only notionally got 10% here There's no projection from any outfit that has the top two as anything but Labour and the Conservatives here. Leave it as is I say. Actually the Ipsos MRP has Reform one point ahead of the Tories, and only five behind Labour. I’m not sure how seriously to take that, but the boundary changes which turned Don Valley into this really don’t help Labour: “Doncaster East” is fairly typical of the old seat but the Isle of Axholme does not strike me as very promising for Labour and might be for Reform. |
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Post by Ports on Jun 19, 2024 14:49:05 GMT
There's no projection from any outfit that has the top two as anything but Labour and the Conservatives here. Leave it as is I say. Actually the Ipsos MRP has Reform one point ahead of the Tories, and only five behind Labour. I stand corrected - my apologies. |
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