Shrewsbury

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Shrewsbury

[John Chanin]

www.shropshire.gov.uk/media/28058/sopn-shrewsbury.pdf

[monksfield]

So looking forward to seeing Kawczynski go down here. Julia Buckley will be a really good MP.

[matureleft]

Here’s the independent..
www.shropshirestar.com/news/politics/ge2024/2024/06/10/meet-shrewsburys-77-year-old-independent-candidate-for-this-summers-general-election/

[The Bishop]

Jun 8, 2024 11:33:47 GMT John Chanin said:

www.shropshire.gov.uk/media/28058/sopn-shrewsbury.pdf

5 "main" parties, plus an Independent and English Democrats - Deport All Illegal Immigrants! <sic>

[cogload]

Lab Gain. Matthew Green is of the opinion Kawczynski will be 3rd here.

[monksfield]

This has been trending Labour and the boundary changes and associated demographics are not good for the Tories. Lots of building going on around the ring road between the Bridgnorth Road and the A49. And towards Battlefield. Given he’s got little chance under the circumstances, I do give Kawcynski a smidge of credit for fighting it and not standing down. Julia Buckley has built up a good personal vote in Bridgnorth, which over the last few years says something. She performed well as the PPC for Ludlow in 2017 and this is her second bite at Shrewsbury. As stated above I think she’ll make a great MP. The Lib Dem could be a future star, was elected to Shropshire Council I think as a teenager. Won a very Tory ward on the back of disquiet about the northern ring road. Don’t know anything about the Reform candidate.

[carlton43]

Jun 24, 2024 3:59:34 GMT cogload said:

Lab Gain. Matthew Green is of the opinion Kawczynski will be 3rd here.

I do hope that turns out to be true.

I worked on his first campaign and in a life of continual political disappointment, he is possibly the most disappointing mistake of all?

[steve]

Jun 24, 2024 7:02:19 GMT monksfield said:

This has been trending Labour and the boundary changes and associated demographics are not good for the Tories. Lots of building going on around the ring road between the Bridgnorth Road and the A49. And towards Battlefield. Given he’s got little chance under the circumstances, I do give Kawcynski a smidge of credit for fighting it and not standing down. Julia Buckley has built up a good personal vote in Bridgnorth, which over the last few years says something. She performed well as the PPC for Ludlow in 2017 and this is her second bite at Shrewsbury. As stated above I think she’ll make a great MP. The Lib Dem could be a future star, was elected to Shropshire Council I think as a teenager. Won a very Tory ward on the back of disquiet about the northern ring road. Don’t know anything about the Reform candidate.

I'm sure she'll be elected but unlike you I'm mot at all impressed by Julia Buckley. I had an exchange with her on Twitter a year or two ago when I caught her out blatantly lying. I gave her the opportunity to correct herself but she just brazenly kept on repeating the same lie which was easily disprovable. Shrewsbury has been very unlucky with its MPs since 1997 at least and I fear it's not going to improve.

[batman]

Jun 24, 2024 7:52:27 GMT carlton43 said:

Jun 24, 2024 3:59:34 GMT cogload said:

Lab Gain. Matthew Green is of the opinion Kawczynski will be 3rd here.

I do hope that turns out to be true.

I worked on his first campaign and in a life of continual political disappointment, he is possibly the most disappointing mistake of all?

I'm interested in this. What in particular disappoints you about Kawczynski? To me, he is pretty barking, but it may well be something completely different that has caused you to find him so disappointing. 

[batman]

Jun 24, 2024 8:41:50 GMT steve said:

Jun 24, 2024 7:02:19 GMT monksfield said:

This has been trending Labour and the boundary changes and associated demographics are not good for the Tories. Lots of building going on around the ring road between the Bridgnorth Road and the A49. And towards Battlefield. Given he’s got little chance under the circumstances, I do give Kawcynski a smidge of credit for fighting it and not standing down. Julia Buckley has built up a good personal vote in Bridgnorth, which over the last few years says something. She performed well as the PPC for Ludlow in 2017 and this is her second bite at Shrewsbury. As stated above I think she’ll make a great MP. The Lib Dem could be a future star, was elected to Shropshire Council I think as a teenager. Won a very Tory ward on the back of disquiet about the northern ring road. Don’t know anything about the Reform candidate.

I'm sure she'll be elected but unlike you I'm mot at all impressed by Julia Buckley. I had an exchange with her on Twitter a year or two ago when I caught her out blatantly lying. I gave her the opportunity to correct herself but she just brazenly kept on repeating the same lie which was easily disprovable. Shrewsbury has been very unlucky with its MPs since 1997 at least and I fear it's not going to improve.

and the predecessor pre-1997, Derek Conway, proved to be a wrong 'un & was expelled from the Conservative Party some years later. Before him was the standard-issue, long-serving Tory Sir John Langford-Holt, first elected in 1945.

[carlton43]

Jun 24, 2024 9:08:41 GMT batman said:

Jun 24, 2024 7:52:27 GMT carlton43 said:

I do hope that turns out to be true.

I worked on his first campaign and in a life of continual political disappointment, he is possibly the most disappointing mistake of all?

I'm interested in this. What in particular disappoints you about Kawczynski? To me, he is pretty barking, but it may well be something completely different that has caused you to find him so disappointing. 

An appropriate and obvious question that I regret I am unable to give a satisfactory answer to for many reasons, some personal, some legal and some that would be ill-received here.  And yes he is pretty barking.  You are correct.

[batman]

Jun 24, 2024 9:28:11 GMT carlton43 said:

Jun 24, 2024 9:08:41 GMT batman said:

I'm interested in this. What in particular disappoints you about Kawczynski? To me, he is pretty barking, but it may well be something completely different that has caused you to find him so disappointing. 

An appropriate and obvious question that I regret I am unable to give a satisfactory answer to for many reasons, some personal, some legal and some that would be ill-received here.  And yes he is pretty barking.  You are correct.

I hopefully will have the opportunity to ask you in person soon.

[Sibboleth]

There are certainly some rather rum rumours about him, including locally. I think I can guess at one of the things Carlton is referring to, but nothing more can be said here, I think.

[steve]

Jun 24, 2024 9:10:01 GMT batman said:

Jun 24, 2024 8:41:50 GMT steve said:

I'm sure she'll be elected but unlike you I'm mot at all impressed by Julia Buckley. I had an exchange with her on Twitter a year or two ago when I caught her out blatantly lying. I gave her the opportunity to correct herself but she just brazenly kept on repeating the same lie which was easily disprovable. Shrewsbury has been very unlucky with its MPs since 1997 at least and I fear it's not going to improve.

and the predecessor pre-1997, Derek Conway, proved to be a wrong 'un & was expelled from the Conservative Party some years later. Before him was the standard-issue, long-serving Tory Sir John Langford-Holt, first elected in 1945.

Yes, I'd forgotten Mr Conway. Sir John was as you say a typical Tory kight of the shires who served right through from 1945-83. Looking pretty good when you compare him with his successors.

[WJ]

Jun 24, 2024 7:52:27 GMT carlton43 said:

Jun 24, 2024 3:59:34 GMT cogload said:

Lab Gain. Matthew Green is of the opinion Kawczynski will be 3rd here.

I do hope that turns out to be true.

I worked on his first campaign and in a life of continual political disappointment, he is possibly the most disappointing mistake of all?

My dyed-in-the-wool Tory father often says that if he lived a mile or so further south and had the prospect of having Kawczynski as his MP, he would have been forced to vote for another party for the first time in his life.