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Post by observer on Jun 30, 2024 17:35:53 GMT
All I'd add to that is that there is little up for debate about facts of pandemic-era policy and its (largely negative) consequences, it's just the idea that there was some sinister global grand plan behind them which takes it into more questionable territory. Back on topic - can't see anything but this corner of the map still being blue come Friday morning. My little sister and brother-in-law live just the other side of the Tamar bridge, but they're on parental leave at the moment so not sure how much chance they've had to talk to colleagues that are also potential voters who might live this side of the river. But you didn't have any arguments anyway... just pure abuse Weak |
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Post by froome on Jun 30, 2024 17:42:06 GMT
Back on the constituency - this will remain Conservative, though you do wonder whether in the next 10 years there will be any overspill effect from Plymouth to bring in a few Labour voters to add to the small latent Labour vote which will exist in the constituency's towns.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 5, 2024 19:06:43 GMT
At the start of the campaign (indeed, since the last election) I had whatever form of Truro & Falmouth and Camborne & Redruth that came out of the Boundary Commission, as Labour gains, I also thought that Newquay & St. Austell would be a shot for a future election, with Labour building strongly. I now think that Labour will gain here too. I wouldn't really have South East Cornwall on the potential gain list, although they have had a remarkable gain in the Rame Peninsula and St. Germans Division of this constituency at the 2021 Unitary Council Elections. The selection of retired Commodore Gareth Derrick (now a Plymouth Labour Councillor) as their candidate in 2017 was an inspired choice, which brought a lot of support from former service personnel and those connected to the Royal Naval dockyards, with Labour supplanting the Lib Dems as the main challengers to the Tories (which he maintained, in the 2019 GE). Mr Derrick nearly won the PCC election for Devon & Cornwall, with reports from vote observers suggesting he won in Cornwall. I would not now be surprised if Labour ran Sheryll Murray close.I am really delighted by the result, I really didn't see it in the short-term. Labour having 4 seats in Cornwall is pretty seismic. |
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Post by greenhert on Jul 6, 2024 17:17:51 GMT
At the start of the campaign (indeed, since the last election) I had whatever form of Truro & Falmouth and Camborne & Redruth that came out of the Boundary Commission, as Labour gains, I also thought that Newquay & St. Austell would be a shot for a future election, with Labour building strongly. I now think that Labour will gain here too. I wouldn't really have South East Cornwall on the potential gain list, although they have had a remarkable gain in the Rame Peninsula and St. Germans Division of this constituency at the 2021 Unitary Council Elections. The selection of retired Commodore Gareth Derrick (now a Plymouth Labour Councillor) as their candidate in 2017 was an inspired choice, which brought a lot of support from former service personnel and those connected to the Royal Naval dockyards, with Labour supplanting the Lib Dems as the main challengers to the Tories (which he maintained, in the 2019 GE). Mr Derrick nearly won the PCC election for Devon & Cornwall, with reports from vote observers suggesting he won in Cornwall. I would not now be surprised if Labour ran Sheryll Murray close.I am really delighted by the result, I really didn't see it in the short-term. Labour having 4 seats in Cornwall is pretty seismic. Furthermore Labour had never even finished 2nd in this seat until 2017, counting Bodmin as this seat's predecessor. |
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Post by cogload on Jul 7, 2024 7:30:11 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001486A pretty remarkable result for those of us who can remember 2005! Prima facie Murray (who hadn't endeared herself to an awful lot of her constituency) lost on a potent mixture of a straight swing to Labour and Reform taking a huge bite out of the vote. In this part of the world candidate choice does matter a tad especially when your party is unpopular. This result to my mind caps off a spectacular night for Labour in the Duchy and sets up an awfully tasty round of UA elections in a couple of years time.
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 8, 2024 19:05:01 GMT
Surprised that the utterly bizarre coverage of this result on the BBC website hasn't had a mention....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 19:08:28 GMT
Did the loss of EU funding (the social fund) for this area harm the Tories? I think Cornwall is one of those areas that got some decent EU money pre-Brexit.
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Post by cogload on Jul 8, 2024 19:14:44 GMT
Surprised that the utterly bizarre coverage of this result on the BBC website hasn't had a mention.... The Labour Party driving tanks through Looe because it's a coup... |
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Post by Robert Waller on Jul 8, 2024 19:14:44 GMT
Surprised that the utterly bizarre coverage of this result on the BBC website hasn't had a mention.... Please explain. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 8, 2024 19:19:24 GMT
The use of the word "coup" to describe it. Of course, they *actually* meant the word in its "other" sense, but still.
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