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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 22:22:43 GMT
Hartlepool
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 13, 2024 22:47:57 GMT
Labour gain.
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Post by ClevelandYorks on Mar 14, 2024 10:20:10 GMT
Candidates so far:
Jill Mortimer (Conservative)
Jonathan Brash (Labour, Burn Valley cllr)
Richard Tice (Reform UK, party leader)
Anne Marie Waters (UKIP)
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Post by mrsir on Mar 23, 2024 19:31:54 GMT
Very odd choice for Tice to stand here.
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Post by carolus on Mar 23, 2024 19:40:08 GMT
Very odd choice for Tice to stand here. Perhaps he forgot about the byelection. |
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Post by right on Mar 23, 2024 20:03:28 GMT
Very odd choice for Tice to stand here. Perhaps he forgot about the byelection. I vaguely remember that Hartlepool had some UKIP organisational strength pre referendum. There MAY be some remnant of that and it MAY have gone to Reform. Didn't show in the by-election as they were split among several UKIPy candidates and the Boris led Tories were still the red wall champions. They're unlikely to win anywhere, but if they were this wouldn't be a bad shout. By-election was a different time. |
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Post by heslingtonian on Mar 25, 2024 18:21:18 GMT
Personally think Tice's style would be far better suited to very Brexity Essex constituency like Clacton, Maldon or Harwich.
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Post by stb12 on Mar 25, 2024 18:31:27 GMT
If I remember right he was going to contest Uxbridge against Boris in 2019 then switched to Hartlepool after the decision was made to not contest Tory held seats
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Post by right on Mar 26, 2024 6:34:57 GMT
Perhaps he's genuinely fallen in love with the place. I've seen it happen to the most ambitiously rootless types (and Tice isn't even that ambitious) in the most unlikely places.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 26, 2024 9:24:51 GMT
I don't think Tice's style would be particularly suited to anywhere, given that he has no discernable charisma.
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Post by right on Mar 26, 2024 9:55:01 GMT
I don't think Tice's style would be particularly suited to anywhere, given that he has no discernable charisma. Well Prime Minister Starmer's hoving into view (Tice is actually a charmer in person, but yeah that doesn't seem to make it into his media performances) |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 26, 2024 9:59:43 GMT
I don't think Tice's style would be particularly suited to anywhere, given that he has no discernable charisma. Well Prime Minister Starmer's hoving into view (Tice is actually a charmer in person, but yeah that doesn't seem to make it into his media performances) Starmer is also apparently a charmer in person, hence why he won the selection for Holborn & St Pancras by a country mile. But the parallel is still appropriate - I don't think there are many seats where Starmer would have done appreciably better or worse than another Labour candidate prior to becoming leader and I think the same applies to Tice and Reform candidates. If he'd do better in Clacton, it's not because he has a particular appeal to Essex voters, it's because that is stronger territory for Reform than Hartlepool is. |
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Post by right on Mar 26, 2024 11:14:00 GMT
Well Prime Minister Starmer's hoving into view (Tice is actually a charmer in person, but yeah that doesn't seem to make it into his media performances) Starmer is also apparently a charmer in person, hence why he won the selection for Holborn & St Pancras by a country mile. But the parallel is still appropriate - I don't think there are many seats where Starmer would have done appreciably better or worse than another Labour candidate prior to becoming leader and I think the same applies to Tice and Reform candidates. If he'd do better in Clacton, it's not because he has a particular appeal to Essex voters, it's because that is stronger territory for Reform than Hartlepool is. There are some wealthier Brexity seats where Tice may do comparatively well. It is funny to think of him as a private sector version of Starmer, but it does seem apt. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 13, 2024 14:02:04 GMT
Perhaps he's genuinely fallen in love with the place. Mandelson seemed to, until he went off to Europe. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2024 10:28:05 GMT
Richard Tice no longer standing here for Reform UK - moved to Boston and Skegness.
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Post by bsjmcr on May 23, 2024 12:26:27 GMT
Richard Tice no longer standing here for Reform UK - moved to Boston and Skegness. Will he do better or worse than Nuttall did? |
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Post by carolus on Jun 7, 2024 19:21:22 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 11, 2024 15:57:30 GMT
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Post by cogload on Jun 11, 2024 16:08:53 GMT
Offttt. Mind if we manage to retain our deposit here it bodes well for a lot of NE seats and means less begging emails for cash post election. 👍
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Post by YL on Jun 11, 2024 16:33:56 GMT
This is quite close to what the YouGov MRP is saying.
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