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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 21:59:45 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 10, 2024 21:55:58 GMT
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wallington
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Post by wallington on Apr 14, 2024 19:20:20 GMT
David Campanale was deselected by the Lib Dems, and they're currently reselecting. Campanale is currently contesting the deselection.
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Apr 14, 2024 19:24:47 GMT
Seems he was deselected due to a failure to declare he was one of the founder of the Christian People Alliance. He claims he was deselected due to being an active Christian.
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wallington
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Post by wallington on Apr 14, 2024 19:33:02 GMT
Seems he was deselected due to a failure to declare he was one of the founder of the Christian People Alliance. He claims he was deselected due to being an active Christian. Seriously, poor diligence by the Lib Dems he was put forward to members in the first place, doesn't take a lot of effort to see his past company (not even talking about the CPA, at least in the early days it could be argued they were more in the Christian Democratic tradition). |
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john07
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 19:34:35 GMT
Seems he was deselected due to a failure to declare he was one of the founder of the Christian People Alliance. He claims he was deselected due to being an active Christian. Bring back Graham Tope. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 14, 2024 20:21:29 GMT
Seems he was deselected due to a failure to declare he was one of the founder of the Christian People Alliance. He claims he was deselected due to being an active Christian. Bring back Graham Tope. I have always thought he was a bit beige. |
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Post by batman on Apr 14, 2024 21:16:14 GMT
He's in the Lords isn't he
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john07
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 22:49:00 GMT
He's in the Lords isn't he So was Alec Douglas Home and Tony Benn? |
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Post by batman on Apr 15, 2024 8:21:14 GMT
Why not just bring back Paul Burstow?
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Post by sirnorfolkpassmore on Apr 18, 2024 8:23:00 GMT
David Campanale was deselected by the Lib Dems, and they're currently reselecting. Campanale is currently contesting the deselection. I don't actually think that he is, in fact, "contesting" deselection. He disagrees with his deselection arguing, perhaps a little implausibly, that the fact he failed to declare his involvement in founding another political party means he's being hounded out for his Christian faith (noting the Lib Dems were quite recently led by a evangelical Christian, and have other senior MPs who are active churchgoers). But "disagreeing with" and "contesting" are different things. He was, in fact, deselected a while ago and the party's internal process is at an end. His next step to challenge could only be to launch a legal action, and this would need to be without undue delay under civil procedure rules. As far as I'm aware, he has not done that, having apparently run an unsuccessful crowdfunder with a view to it a year or so ago, and the delay in doing so probably precludes it from having any prospect of success. His Twitter profile no longer makes reference to the Lib Dems or his MP aspirations. So I think it's pretty clear that, although he naturally disagrees with the decision to deselect him, there is no realistic route to him being on the ballot paper as a Lib Dem candidate in the upcoming General Election. |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 18, 2024 11:55:02 GMT
David Campanale was deselected by the Lib Dems, and they're currently reselecting. Campanale is currently contesting the deselection. I don't actually think that he is, in fact, "contesting" deselection. He disagrees with his deselection arguing, perhaps a little implausibly, that the fact he failed to declare his involvement in founding another political party means he's being hounded out for his Christian faith (noting the Lib Dems were quite recently led by a evangelical Christian, and have other senior MPs who are active churchgoers). But "disagreeing with" and "contesting" are different things. He was, in fact, deselected a while ago and the party's internal process is at an end. His next step to challenge could only be to launch a legal action, and this would need to be without undue delay under civil procedure rules. As far as I'm aware, he has not done that, having apparently run an unsuccessful crowdfunder with a view to it a year or so ago, and the delay in doing so probably precludes it from having any prospect of success. His Twitter profile no longer makes reference to the Lib Dems or his MP aspirations. So I think it's pretty clear that, although he naturally disagrees with the decision to deselect him, there is no realistic route to him being on the ballot paper as a Lib Dem candidate in the upcoming General Election. I am puzzled by the claim that he “failed to declare his involvement in founding another party. Does that mean they specifically asked him whether he had done, and he denied it? Or does it mean that they were somehow expecting him to state the information voluntarily without prompting, and they were taken aback when they found out? If he specifically lied about it, that’s one thing; but it may be simply that he assumed they already knew. When I read the name “Campanale” at the start of this story, it rang bells in my memory as the name of a prominent member of one of the Christian parties. |
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Post by bigfatron on Apr 18, 2024 11:59:57 GMT
I don't actually think that he is, in fact, "contesting" deselection. He disagrees with his deselection arguing, perhaps a little implausibly, that the fact he failed to declare his involvement in founding another political party means he's being hounded out for his Christian faith (noting the Lib Dems were quite recently led by a evangelical Christian, and have other senior MPs who are active churchgoers). But "disagreeing with" and "contesting" are different things. He was, in fact, deselected a while ago and the party's internal process is at an end. His next step to challenge could only be to launch a legal action, and this would need to be without undue delay under civil procedure rules. As far as I'm aware, he has not done that, having apparently run an unsuccessful crowdfunder with a view to it a year or so ago, and the delay in doing so probably precludes it from having any prospect of success. His Twitter profile no longer makes reference to the Lib Dems or his MP aspirations. So I think it's pretty clear that, although he naturally disagrees with the decision to deselect him, there is no realistic route to him being on the ballot paper as a Lib Dem candidate in the upcoming General Election. I am puzzled by the claim that he “failed to declare his involvement in founding another party. Does that mean they specifically asked him whether he had done, and he denied it? Or does it mean that they were somehow expecting him to state the information voluntarily without prompting, and they were taken aback when they found out? If he specifically lied about it, that’s one thing; but it may be simply that he assumed they already knew. When I read the name “Campanale” at the start of this story, it rang bells in my memory as the name of a prominent member of one of the Christian parties. Even as a Lib Dem district council candidate in a hopeless seat I had to sign a piece of paper confirming my involvement (or lack of, in my case) in any other political party or movement. I assumed this was standard in all parties.. |
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Post by tonyhil on Apr 18, 2024 12:34:52 GMT
As he has a relatively unusual name I would have thought that a Google search might have thrown up information which would have prompted some careful questioning.
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Post by johnloony on Apr 18, 2024 12:52:31 GMT
I am puzzled by the claim that he “failed to declare his involvement in founding another party. Does that mean they specifically asked him whether he had done, and he denied it? Or does it mean that they were somehow expecting him to state the information voluntarily without prompting, and they were taken aback when they found out? If he specifically lied about it, that’s one thing; but it may be simply that he assumed they already knew. When I read the name “Campanale” at the start of this story, it rang bells in my memory as the name of a prominent member of one of the Christian parties. Even as a Lib Dem district council candidate in a hopeless seat I had to sign a piece of paper confirming my involvement (or lack of, in my case) in any other political party or movement. I assumed this was standard in all parties.. Never heard of that before. It must be a Lib Dem totalitarian thing |
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Post by bigfatron on Apr 18, 2024 13:02:02 GMT
Even as a Lib Dem district council candidate in a hopeless seat I had to sign a piece of paper confirming my involvement (or lack of, in my case) in any other political party or movement. I assumed this was standard in all parties.. Never heard of that before. It must be a Lib Dem totalitarian thing Are you seriously saying that the Tory party don't ask prospective candidates if they belong to any other party/political group before selection?! That's just insane. No wonder UKIP were able to stage a reverse takeover... |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 18, 2024 13:51:30 GMT
Asking whether you belong to another party isn't the same thing as asking whether you have previously been a member of any other party.
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Ports
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Post by Ports on Apr 19, 2024 11:09:05 GMT
Perhaps the one of the easier ways to get around the hurdle of involvement in another party when wanting to join the Lib Dems is to be a member of the House of Commons at the time.
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 19, 2024 11:24:48 GMT
Are you seriously saying that the Tory party don't ask prospective candidates if they belong to any other party/political group before selection?! That's just insane. No wonder UKIP were able to stage a reverse takeover... What Ukip reverse takeover? People who've been in Ukip are few and far between, especially at the top of the party. If you want an example of a party that found itself hijacked by an influx of new members, look to the way your lot gave in to the wilder extremes of #FBPE. |
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Post by iang on Apr 20, 2024 20:34:17 GMT
There was no element of candidate approval that explicitly asked "have you ever been a member of another political party?". [There is now]. So whatever else are the rights and wrongs, it isn't the case that he deliberately concealed having been involved in the Christian party some time previously ( and he had been an Alliance Councillor in Kingston before that)
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