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Post by notabrummie on Jun 27, 2024 16:13:44 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal.
His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election.
Don't trust them can't trust them.
I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party.
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Post by bigfatron on Jun 27, 2024 16:26:21 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. And yet he is the only major party leader whose ratings have improved during the election… |
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 27, 2024 17:02:10 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. And yet he is the only major party leader whose ratings have improved during the election… Yes I think we need to give Davey and the Liberal Democrats credit for a clever campaign. It was never going to appeal to the likes of us, and wasn't intended to. |
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Post by john07 on Jun 27, 2024 17:19:47 GMT
And yet he is the only major party leader whose ratings have improved during the election… Yes I think we need to give Davey and the Liberal Democrats credit for a clever campaign. I think that it is more to do with the fact that Labour started out at unsustainably high levels of support. Since then the Conservatives have bombed. This could have two effects: firstly Tory voters shifting to the Lib Dems and secondly some Lib Dem inclined voters switching back from tactical support for Labour because the threat of another Tory Government has all but evapourated. Given the seats where these switches are likely to have most effect, it could lead to a fair number of gains mostly in the South but also in the likes of Cheadle and Hazel Grove. |
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Post by sirnorfolkpassmore on Jun 28, 2024 13:50:38 GMT
Yes I think we need to give Davey and the Liberal Democrats credit for a clever campaign. I think that it is more to do with the fact that Labour started out at unsustainably high levels of support. Since then the Conservatives have bombed. This could have two effects: firstly Tory voters shifting to the Lib Dems and secondly some Lib Dem inclined voters switching back from tactical support for Labour because the threat of another Tory Government has all but evapourated. Given the seats where these switches are likely to have most effect, it could lead to a fair number of gains mostly in the South but also in the likes of Cheadle and Hazel Grove. What's happening with other parties may explain the uptick in Lib Dem polling support in the campaign, but doesn't explain the increase in Davey's own favourability ratings - those aren't relative to Sunak and Starmer, but just about him. The proof will, of course, be in the pudding. But you can see why the Lib Dem campaign has sought to project relatability and warmth - and they seem to have done quite well in doing so. Firstly, it's a point of distinction (Starmer struggles a little with coming across as a bit bloodless, and Sunak is quite a remote figure). Secondly, winning additional seats for them requires two elements in their targets - being seen as a safe choice for soft Tories and as a tactical vote Labour people can feel good about. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 28, 2024 14:09:03 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. And yet he is the only major party leader whose ratings have improved during the election… Starmer's also have, across multiple pollsters. |
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Post by iang on Jun 28, 2024 19:40:53 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. What's your problem with Ian? |
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Post by wallington on Jun 28, 2024 20:32:01 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. I'm the last person to give them pesky Lib Dems credit, but Davey has done a fine job, especialy with appealing to the middle of the road, jolly hockey sticks, soft tory vote... and had a good time doing it. Fair play. |
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Post by steve on Jun 29, 2024 1:45:06 GMT
Ed Davey makes Boris look normal. His campaign tour seems to be one long fun park etc jolly and his Party Election Broadcast last night hardly mentioned Party or Election. Don't trust them can't trust them. I think that may be from growing up in Walsall with Ian Shires as THE Lib party. I'm the last person to give them pesky Lib Dems credit, but Davey has done a fine job, especialy with appealing to the middle of the road, jolly hockey sticks, soft tory vote... and had a good time doing it. Fair play. You've got me envisioning him as a modern Joyce Grenfell now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 1:47:34 GMT
Ed Davey is doing exactly what I would do in his position - attention-seeking hilarity that cheers voters up a bit amid the vast quagmire of shit (literal and figurative) that is the UK in the year 2024. My hat goes off to him and he's a savvy politician who wishcasted the destruction of the 'blue wall' into being with effortless aplomb.
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Post by batman on Jul 25, 2024 12:47:28 GMT
It’s rather surprising that the Workers’ Party stood against Yvonne Tracey here.
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Post by cathyc on Jul 25, 2024 12:59:26 GMT
It’s rather surprising that the Workers’ Party stood against Yvonne Tracey here. Yvonne Tracey was nominated by James Giles. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 25, 2024 13:01:17 GMT
It’s rather surprising that the Workers’ Party stood against Yvonne Tracey here. Yvonne Tracey was nominated by James Giles. Just standing for the publicity of this being Ed Davey's seat. |
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Post by cathyc on Jul 25, 2024 13:23:21 GMT
It’s rather surprising that the Workers’ Party stood against Yvonne Tracey here. Yvonne Tracey was nominated by James Giles. James Giles was Galloway's 'chief of staff'. |
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Post by michaelarden on Jul 25, 2024 16:24:05 GMT
It’s rather surprising that the Workers’ Party stood against Yvonne Tracey here. She was an independent and nothing to do with the Workers' Party. Or are female politicians defined by their male counterparts? |
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Post by batman on Jul 25, 2024 19:53:15 GMT
"Nothing to do with" is a rather strong expression considering that Giles was her proposer. He was of course a Workers' Party candidate elsewhere. Somehow he manages to be a member of two different parties which ended up standing against each other. Awks. She may well be not a WP member, but the fact remains that one of the party's leading activists nominated her. Yes I know he's her grandson, but the point remains.
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Post by londonseal80 on Jul 27, 2024 13:33:46 GMT
Just seen a Labour leaflet for their candidate here. It is headed “Labour Can Win Here” with a bar chart to prove it. Apparently, surprising as it might seem, someone in the Labour Party has a sense of humour. The only trouble is they can’t even win a seat on the local council Like neighbouring Sutton with the Liberal Democrats or Epsom and Ewell with the Residents there are wards in this seat that would likely to be either solidly Labour or that Labour would able to win in a good year. If not for the local Lib Dem strength Norbiton would likely be a safe Labour ward with the wards covering Tolworth, Chessington and Kingston Town Centre being competitive and won in good Labour years. |
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