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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 21:33:35 GMT
Bethnal Green and Stepney
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 25, 2024 18:34:12 GMT
Notional results since 1945. The 2019 result is the 'official' (Thrasher & Rallings) notional - the others are my own work | | Con | Lab | Lib | Com | | | | | | | | 1945 | 10.2% | 58.7% | 22.9% | 8.2% | | 1950 | 8.5% | 65.5% | 18.0% | 8.0% | | 1951 | 12.5% | 72.6% | 11.0% | 3.9% | | 1955 | 14.0% | 71.6% | 10.5% | 4.0% | | 1959 | 18.8% | 67.5% | 8.8% | 4.9% | | 1964 | 17.0% | 68.3% | 10.6% | 4.2% | | 1966 | 14.6% | 73.6% | 7.5% | 4.3% |
| | Con | Lab | Lib/LD | Com | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | 1970 | 18.9% | 70.1% | 7.5% | 3.5% | | | 1974 | 16.0% | 68.5% | 13.5% | 2.0% | | | 1974 | 11.1% | 69.5% | 13.2% | 1.1% | 5.1% | | 1979 | 21.5% | 53.8% | 16.8% | 1.0% | 5.7% | | 1983 | 13.8% | 49.7% | 31.7% | 0.8% | 2.8% | | 1987 | 19.0% | 46.6% | 33.7% | 0.7% | | | 1992 | 16.8% | 54.8% | 24.3% | 0.4% | 3.8% |
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BXP | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | | | 1997 | 20.2% | 47.5% | 11.3% | | 1.7% | 1.1% | 7.4% | | 2001 | 22.7% | 52.6% | 14.5% | | 4.1% | | 3.5% | | 2005 | 13.0% | 34.4% | 10.6% | 37.4% | 4.4% | 2.1% | | | 2010 | 14.3% | 42.4% | 18.3% | 19.5% | 1.5% | | 2.3% | | 2015 | 15.2% | 62.6% | 4.4% | | 8.8% | 5.6% | | | 2017 | 12.1% | 72.6% | 4.9% | | 2.4% | 1.3% | | | 2019 | 10.1% | 73.5% | 9.3% | | 4.2% | 2.0% | |
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 25, 2024 18:40:35 GMT
Notional results since 1945. The 2019 result is the 'official' (Thrasher & Rallings) notional - the others are my own work | | Con | Lab | Lib | Com | | | | | | | | 1945 | 10.2% | 58.7% | 22.9% | 8.2% | | 1950 | 8.5% | 65.5% | 18.0% | 8.0% | | 1951 | 12.5% | 72.6% | 11.0% | 3.9% | | 1955 | 14.0% | 71.6% | 10.5% | 4.0% | | 1959 | 18.8% | 67.5% | 8.8% | 4.9% | | 1964 | 17.0% | 68.3% | 10.6% | 4.2% | | 1966 | 14.6% | 73.6% | 7.5% | 4.3% |
| | Con | Lab | Lib/LD | Com | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | 1970 | 18.9% | 70.1% | 7.5% | 3.5% | | | 1974 | 16.0% | 68.5% | 13.5% | 2.0% | | | 1974 | 11.1% | 69.5% | 13.2% | 1.1% | 5.1% | | 1979 | 21.5% | 53.8% | 16.8% | 1.0% | 5.7% | | 1983 | 13.8% | 49.7% | 31.7% | 0.8% | 2.8% | | 1987 | 19.0% | 46.6% | 33.7% | 0.7% | | | 1992 | 16.8% | 54.8% | 24.3% | 0.4% | 3.8% |
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BXP | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | | | 1997 | 20.2% | 47.5% | 11.3% | | 1.7% | 1.1% | 7.4% | | 2001 | 22.7% | 52.6% | 14.5% | | 4.1% | | 3.5% | | 2005 | 13.0% | 34.4% | 10.6% | 37.4% | 4.4% | 2.1% | | | 2010 | 14.3% | 42.4% | 18.3% | 19.5% | 1.5% | | 2.3% | | 2015 | 15.2% | 62.6% | 4.4% | | 8.8% | 5.6% | | | 2017 | 12.1% | 72.6% | 4.9% | | 2.4% | 1.3% | | | 2019 | 10.1% | 73.5% | 9.3% | | 4.2% | 2.0% | |
It doesn't seem right that the Tory high water mark is... 2001 |
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Post by right on Apr 25, 2024 19:31:32 GMT
Notional results since 1945. The 2019 result is the 'official' (Thrasher & Rallings) notional - the others are my own work | | Con | Lab | Lib | Com | | | | | | | | 1945 | 10.2% | 58.7% | 22.9% | 8.2% | | 1950 | 8.5% | 65.5% | 18.0% | 8.0% | | 1951 | 12.5% | 72.6% | 11.0% | 3.9% | | 1955 | 14.0% | 71.6% | 10.5% | 4.0% | | 1959 | 18.8% | 67.5% | 8.8% | 4.9% | | 1964 | 17.0% | 68.3% | 10.6% | 4.2% | | 1966 | 14.6% | 73.6% | 7.5% | 4.3% |
| | Con | Lab | Lib/LD | Com | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | 1970 | 18.9% | 70.1% | 7.5% | 3.5% | | | 1974 | 16.0% | 68.5% | 13.5% | 2.0% | | | 1974 | 11.1% | 69.5% | 13.2% | 1.1% | 5.1% | | 1979 | 21.5% | 53.8% | 16.8% | 1.0% | 5.7% | | 1983 | 13.8% | 49.7% | 31.7% | 0.8% | 2.8% | | 1987 | 19.0% | 46.6% | 33.7% | 0.7% | | | 1992 | 16.8% | 54.8% | 24.3% | 0.4% | 3.8% |
| | Con | Lab | LD | Resp | Green | Ref/UKIP/
BXP | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | | | | 1997 | 20.2% | 47.5% | 11.3% | | 1.7% | 1.1% | 7.4% | | 2001 | 22.7% | 52.6% | 14.5% | | 4.1% | | 3.5% | | 2005 | 13.0% | 34.4% | 10.6% | 37.4% | 4.4% | 2.1% | | | 2010 | 14.3% | 42.4% | 18.3% | 19.5% | 1.5% | | 2.3% | | 2015 | 15.2% | 62.6% | 4.4% | | 8.8% | 5.6% | | | 2017 | 12.1% | 72.6% | 4.9% | | 2.4% | 1.3% | | | 2019 | 10.1% | 73.5% | 9.3% | | 4.2% | 2.0% | |
It doesn't seem right that the Tory high water mark is... 2001 I think there was some Bangledeshi politics around that time, although I did think that the high watermark was the even less likely 1997 (it was either the only or one of only two seats that increased the Tory share of the vote in 97). The Bangledeshi vote also explains why almost half the vote seemed to desert for Galloway in 2005. The Tories also started winning councillors in Tower Hamlets then for the first time in just about ever, but the other half of the borough, so the knowledge of this may have helped their chances - but I don't put too much in that. They were still a presence when the Tories were plummeting after 2015. |
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Post by John Chanin on Apr 25, 2024 19:48:53 GMT
In 1997 and 2001 Labour's candidate was Oona King. The Conservative candidates (different at the 2 elections) were Bangladeshis, and in 2001 the only Bangladeshi candidate.
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Post by rcronald on Apr 26, 2024 19:10:27 GMT
In 1997 and 2001 Labour's candidate was Oona King. The Conservative candidates (different at the 2 elections) were Bangladeshis, and in 2001 the only Bangladeshi candidate. I have to say that selecting a Jewish candidate in a constituency with a lot of Muslims definitely wasn’t a smart decision on Labour’s part, and shows how little they knew (or were naive enough to think that the ones who came here are vastly different) about Muslim anti-semitism at the time. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 26, 2024 19:15:24 GMT
In 1997 and 2001 Labour's candidate was Oona King. The Conservative candidates (different at the 2 elections) were Bangladeshis, and in 2001 the only Bangladeshi candidate. I have to say that selecting a Jewish candidate in a constituency with a lot of Muslims definitely wasn’t a smart decision on Labour’s part, and shows how little they knew (or were naive enough to think that the ones who came here are vastly different) about Muslim anti-semitism at the time. Her majorities in 1997 and 2001 were comfortable. It was only the appearance of the Galloway circus in 2005 that derailed matters (for reasons we all know). |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 26, 2024 19:24:42 GMT
In 1997 and 2001 Labour's candidate was Oona King. The Conservative candidates (different at the 2 elections) were Bangladeshis, and in 2001 the only Bangladeshi candidate. I have to say that selecting a Jewish candidate in a constituency with a lot of Muslims definitely wasn’t a smart decision on Labour’s part, and shows how little they knew (or were naive enough to think that the ones who came here are vastly different) about Muslim anti-semitism at the time. Not sure. Looking at the Iraq war, there were Jewish candidates who supported Iraq. However, both Bethnal Green and Stepney, and Manchester Gorton, with many Muslim voters, had a Jewish MP who was anti-Israel and strongly pro-Palestine - Gerald Kaufman. Oona King was not, and Galloway used this, including Iraq and Palestine. |
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Post by rcronald on Apr 26, 2024 19:26:24 GMT
I have to say that selecting a Jewish candidate in a constituency with a lot of Muslims definitely wasn’t a smart decision on Labour’s part, and shows how little they knew (or were naive enough to think that the ones who came here are vastly different) about Muslim anti-semitism at the time. Her majorities in 1997 and 2001 were comfortable. It was only the appearance of the Galloway circus in 2005 that derailed matters (for reasons we all know). I know, but I suspect that her majorities would have been (pretty significantly) bigger if she had no Jewish heritage. I should note that I’m not saying that all (or most) of the Bangladeshi community is anti-Semitic, many of them who voted for another candidate simply disagreed with her views or just followed the recommendation of community leaders. |
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Post by rcronald on Apr 26, 2024 19:27:15 GMT
I have to say that selecting a Jewish candidate in a constituency with a lot of Muslims definitely wasn’t a smart decision on Labour’s part, and shows how little they knew (or were naive enough to think that the ones who came here are vastly different) about Muslim anti-semitism at the time. Not sure. Looking at the Iraq war, there were Jewish candidates who supported Iraq. However, both Bethnal Green and Stepney, and Manchester Gorton, with many Muslim voters, had a Jewish MP who was anti-Israel and strongly pro-Palestine - Gerald Kaufman. Oona King was not, and Galloway used this, including Iraq and Palestine. I’m obviously not talking about 2005, which she lost because of Iraq and not anti-semitism. |
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Post by rcronald on Apr 26, 2024 19:40:58 GMT
I know, but I suspect that her majorities would have been (pretty significantly) bigger if she had no Jewish heritage. I should note that I’m not saying that all (or most) of the Bangladeshi community is anti-Semitic, many of them who voted for another candidate simply disagreed with her views or just followed the recommendation of community leaders. You mean they are nasty racist bigots. Or is that exclusively a slur addressed to the white majority? I tend to use milder language, but you aren’t wrong about some of them… |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 7, 2024 17:05:10 GMT
SOPN www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/Documents/Democracy/Elections/2024/SOPN-Bethnal-Green-Stepney.docxADAMS, Reggie - Independent AHMED, Md Somon - Independent ALI, Rushanara - Labour Party GILL, Phoebe Julia - Green Party HUDSON, Vanessa Helen - Animal Welfare Party - People, Animals, Environment KHAN, Rabina - Liberal Democrats MABBUTT, Jon - Social Democratic Party MASROOR, Ajmal - Independent REANEY, Oscar - The Conservative and Unionist Party SCEATS, Peter Howard - Reform UK UDDIN, Sham - Independent |
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Post by londonseal80 on Jun 12, 2024 18:28:26 GMT
SOPN www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/Documents/Democracy/Elections/2024/SOPN-Bethnal-Green-Stepney.docxADAMS, Reggie - Independent AHMED, Md Somon - Independent ALI, Rushanara - Labour Party GILL, Phoebe Julia - Green Party HUDSON, Vanessa Helen - Animal Welfare Party - People, Animals, Environment KHAN, Rabina - Liberal Democrats MABBUTT, Jon - Social Democratic Party MASROOR, Ajmal - Independent REANEY, Oscar - The Conservative and Unionist Party SCEATS, Peter Howard - Reform UK UDDIN, Sham - Independent The question here is where does the Aspire vote go? |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 12, 2024 21:14:24 GMT
SOPN www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/Documents/Democracy/Elections/2024/SOPN-Bethnal-Green-Stepney.docxADAMS, Reggie - Independent AHMED, Md Somon - Independent ALI, Rushanara - Labour Party GILL, Phoebe Julia - Green Party HUDSON, Vanessa Helen - Animal Welfare Party - People, Animals, Environment KHAN, Rabina - Liberal Democrats MABBUTT, Jon - Social Democratic Party MASROOR, Ajmal - Independent REANEY, Oscar - The Conservative and Unionist Party SCEATS, Peter Howard - Reform UK UDDIN, Sham - Independent The question here is where does the Aspire vote go? Looking at results of this seat's predecessor (and successor) Bethnal Green & Bow, most likely Ajmal Masroor who was the only Independent candidate in Greater London to save his deposit in the 2019 election. |
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Post by right on Jun 12, 2024 21:18:30 GMT
SOPN www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/Documents/Democracy/Elections/2024/SOPN-Bethnal-Green-Stepney.docxADAMS, Reggie - Independent AHMED, Md Somon - Independent ALI, Rushanara - Labour Party GILL, Phoebe Julia - Green Party HUDSON, Vanessa Helen - Animal Welfare Party - People, Animals, Environment KHAN, Rabina - Liberal Democrats MABBUTT, Jon - Social Democratic Party MASROOR, Ajmal - Independent REANEY, Oscar - The Conservative and Unionist Party SCEATS, Peter Howard - Reform UK UDDIN, Sham - Independent Outside party leader's constituencies is this the longest ballot paper? |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 12, 2024 21:19:56 GMT
SOPN www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/Documents/Democracy/Elections/2024/SOPN-Bethnal-Green-Stepney.docxADAMS, Reggie - Independent AHMED, Md Somon - Independent ALI, Rushanara - Labour Party GILL, Phoebe Julia - Green Party HUDSON, Vanessa Helen - Animal Welfare Party - People, Animals, Environment KHAN, Rabina - Liberal Democrats MABBUTT, Jon - Social Democratic Party MASROOR, Ajmal - Independent REANEY, Oscar - The Conservative and Unionist Party SCEATS, Peter Howard - Reform UK UDDIN, Sham - Independent Outside party leader's constituencies is this the longest ballot paper? No, that honour goes to Oxford East's ballot paper, which has 12 candidates. Oxford East is the type of seat that regularly attracts long ballot papers irrespective of who its MP is. |
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Post by right on Jun 19, 2024 13:04:12 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 4, 2024 15:24:29 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Jul 4, 2024 16:54:05 GMT
I initially misread that headline as meaning that a dog had forced a mask onto a human |
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