ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Jul 11, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
Does Piers Corbyn still do his long range weather forecasting? Not sure of his methodology or how accurate he is but I know he used to place bets on it too. I recall watching a TV documentary about him many years ago. I was interested in his weather predictions that were primarily based (I think) on sunspot activity. Anyway, he was good enough to make a living from it. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Jul 11, 2024 10:13:36 GMT
Reform did reasonably well here at about 9% - would there be any particular reason for this? I know Bermondsey does retain more of a white working class presence than most of the rest of inner London but I wouldn't have thought that'd be enough to make it that much stronger for Reform than similarly central seats.
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iain
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Post by iain on Jul 11, 2024 10:20:10 GMT
Reform did reasonably well here at about 9% - would there be any particular reason for this? I know Bermondsey does retain more of a white working class presence than most of the rest of inner London but I wouldn't have thought that'd be enough to make it that much stronger for Reform than similarly central seats. That is the reason - the white working class component in Bermondsey, while far reduced, is still much higher than surrounding areas. Reform will also have done okay-ish with some of the wealthier white vote in the east of the seat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 10:25:15 GMT
Does Piers Corbyn still do his long range weather forecasting? Not sure of his methodology or how accurate he is but I know he used to place bets on it too. I recall watching a TV documentary about him many years ago. I was interested in his weather predictions that were primarily based (I think) on sunspot activity. Anyway, he was good enough to make a living from it. He was good enough at promoting himself to make a living from it. |
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Post by Clark on Jul 11, 2024 11:43:56 GMT
Reform did reasonably well here at about 9% - would there be any particular reason for this? I know Bermondsey does retain more of a white working class presence than most of the rest of inner London but I wouldn't have thought that'd be enough to make it that much stronger for Reform than similarly central seats. Millwall fans is my guess |
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Post by batman on Jul 11, 2024 12:27:27 GMT
Millwall's ground is only a few yards outside the constituency. The neighbouring station, South Bermondsey, is within it.
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Post by michaelarden on Jul 11, 2024 13:04:09 GMT
Suspect longer term with the Lib Dem focus on mainly southern suburbia and middle class towns, the Lib Dems will be overtaken by the Greens here - as they have in most of the rest of inner London. How quickly it happens will depend on the 2026 local elections and how many Lib Dem councillors cling on and how many the Greens win.
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Post by batman on Jul 11, 2024 13:08:15 GMT
The LDs are still quite strong in a few wards, especially Borough & Bankside. They are vulnerable to Labour in most of their other seats.
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Post by birkinabe on Jul 11, 2024 13:20:06 GMT
Suspect longer term with the Lib Dem focus on mainly southern suburbia and middle class towns, the Lib Dems will be overtaken by the Greens here - as they have in most of the rest of inner London. How quickly it happens will depend on the 2026 local elections and how many Lib Dem councillors cling on and how many the Greens win. While I could be wrong, I don't get the impression most of the LD vote here would be particularly inclined towards voting Green, though they may well be overtaken by them anyway.
Reform did reasonably well here at about 9% - would there be any particular reason for this? I know Bermondsey does retain more of a white working class presence than most of the rest of inner London but I wouldn't have thought that'd be enough to make it that much stronger for Reform than similarly central seats. That is the reason - the white working class component in Bermondsey, while far reduced, is still much higher than surrounding areas. Reform will also have done okay-ish with some of the wealthier white vote in the east of the seat. All of the other Inner London seats Reform did relatively well in (i.e. Islington South and Finsbury, Poplar and Limehouse, various West London seats) have at least one of these in common with this seat as well. |
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Post by noorderling on Jul 11, 2024 14:43:32 GMT
Suspect longer term with the Lib Dem focus on mainly southern suburbia and middle class towns, the Lib Dems will be overtaken by the Greens here - as they have in most of the rest of inner London. How quickly it happens will depend on the 2026 local elections and how many Lib Dem councillors cling on and how many the Greens win. The Greens now have several potential (and more promising) targets in inner London, the Lib Dems only this one. |
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Post by redtony on Jul 11, 2024 20:33:47 GMT
The Labour vote was based on the London Dockers who in 1968 struck and marched in support of Enoch Powell's rivers of blood speech
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 11, 2024 22:15:28 GMT
There were hardly any dockers left in this constituency by 1968 and none at all after 1970.
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