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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 20:50:04 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Mar 15, 2024 20:42:43 GMT
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YL
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Post by YL on Mar 15, 2024 21:42:39 GMT
All of 635 votes defending his seat in North as an Independent in 2019. |
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Post by matureleft on Mar 15, 2024 22:41:59 GMT
He represented Normanton on the council for about 20 years, which is in Derby South. However his results didn’t suggest strong personal support in what is normally a very safe Labour ward.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 19, 2024 10:09:27 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them.
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Merseymike
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2024 10:47:06 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them. The issue is Palestine. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 19, 2024 11:08:11 GMT
And grifters like Galloway, Murray and Williamson are riding on the back of it.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2024 11:41:13 GMT
And grifters like Galloway, Murray and Williamson are riding on the back of it. They support the Palestinians. As for Labour, some people are disappointed. |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 19, 2024 11:49:28 GMT
I'm not disagreeing that it is an issue that some people care very much about, and for perfectly legitimate reasons.
Its just a shame that it has been hijacked by such unsavoury people.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2024 12:02:06 GMT
I'm not disagreeing that it is an issue that some people care very much about, and for perfectly legitimate reasons. Its just a shame that it has been hijacked by such unsavoury people. But Labour can't oppose their views. Of course some disagree, but anyone says their views, they accuse of so called "anti-semitism" Starmer is simply wrong. Personally we should support the Palestinians, not Israel. |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 19, 2024 13:00:31 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them. The issue is Palestine. Two of these men have made money (Galloway on Sputnik) or are making money (Williamson on Press TV) from oppressive regimes, the latter from a regime murdering, attacking and imprisoning women. It is grift. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2024 13:05:56 GMT
Two of these men have made money (Galloway on Sputnik) or are making money (Williamson on Press TV) from oppressive regimes, the latter from a regime murdering, attacking and imprisoning women. It is grift. So what? Now, about Palestine...? |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 19, 2024 13:11:48 GMT
Two of these men have made money (Galloway on Sputnik) or are making money (Williamson on Press TV) from oppressive regimes, the latter from a regime murdering, attacking and imprisoning women. It is grift. So what? Now, about Palestine...? The grift is Palestine, Mike - Chris Williamson presents a show about Palestine on a TV channel that has supported the torture of journalists and which is funded by those oppressing women, ethnic minorities, gays, socialists, liberals, etc. How can one pretend to care about the wrongs in Palestine when you take money off this sort of regime. |
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Post by batman on Mar 19, 2024 13:21:05 GMT
It's all very well supporting the Palestinians, but if you support mass-murder in Syria & horrific repression in Iran, to give two examples, it ain't very progressive is it. This is one of the reasons why I will not support Galloway, Williamson & other grifters. And yes they are grifters.
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Post by right on Mar 19, 2024 14:13:01 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them. Has Derby South got a big Muslim population? If it does, why was Williamson so bad at this last time? |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 19, 2024 14:18:03 GMT
We know that the pro-Israel crew exists, we know some of them are disapprove - so, can we have pro-Palestinian views and oppose Israel?
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Post by batman on Mar 19, 2024 14:34:29 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them. Has Derby South got a big Muslim population? If it does, why was Williamson so bad at this last time? it does but he was MP for Derby North previously, a seat with a much smaller Muslim population. |
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Post by edgbaston on Mar 19, 2024 14:50:09 GMT
We know that the pro-Israel crew exists, we know some of them are disapprove - so, can we have pro-Palestinian views and oppose Israel? If you also condemn other regimes that kill civilians. And not just when Jews do it. That’s racism. |
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Post by maxque on Mar 19, 2024 21:36:00 GMT
I'm not disagreeing that it is an issue that some people care very much about, and for perfectly legitimate reasons. Its just a shame that it has been hijacked by such unsavoury people. Indeed, and it wouldn't be a problem if "savoury" people wouldn't be in a race to appear the most pro-Israel possible. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 20, 2024 11:13:12 GMT
All these middle-aged non-Muslim white men fighting for the votes of mostly non-white, largely young, Muslims. Whilst I don't care about the colour, age, religion, etc., of candidates, the irony seems somewhat lost on them. Has Derby South got a big Muslim population? If it does, why was Williamson so bad at this last time? He stood in his former seat (Derby North) last time. But yes, his vote was still notably low for an outgoing MP even given he was by then an independent. |
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