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Post by nyx on Feb 15, 2024 0:48:46 GMT
If we assume that the Lib Dems Seig Heiling was ironic He raised his hand in a council meeting in 2007 thanks to wanting to speak, and a Labour councillor interpreted it as a Nazi salute. I suppose there are only a limited number of ways in which a hand can be raised.
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 15, 2024 7:21:20 GMT
I would vote for whoever I felt had the best chance of beating Gorgeous George.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 15, 2024 7:57:20 GMT
Simon Danczuk wouldn't have been my ideal choice for Reform candidate but I would vote for him
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Post by Sandy on Feb 15, 2024 17:04:29 GMT
Well, I am a tribal Lib Dem, so would of course vote Lib Dem here. The only party I might possibly give a tactical vote anywhere would be for Labour in Brighton Pavilion. Pretty sure I didn’t imagine you saying you’ve voted SNP in Paisley more than once? ?
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Post by right on Feb 15, 2024 17:41:42 GMT
I'd be very tempted to not vote but I would feel bound to cast a vote against Galloway. And sadly Ali as well. Would the rule about not publicly admitting to voting against the official Labour candidate come into play? Obviously it wouldn't be enforced, but is it a technical breach?
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Post by right on Feb 15, 2024 17:44:10 GMT
I voted Reform here, but if there was any chance of a Tory coming (and that presumably means no chance of Reform in this seat) in I'd probably fold and vote Tory. I usually do for all the big talk beforehand.
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Post by batman on Feb 15, 2024 17:52:50 GMT
I'd be very tempted to not vote but I would feel bound to cast a vote against Galloway. And sadly Ali as well. Would the rule about not publicly admitting to voting against the official Labour candidate come into play? Obviously it wouldn't be enforced, but is it a technical breach? no. He is shown on the ballot paper as the Labour candidate, but he has lost the Party’s official backing. My sentence is not in breach of Labour Party rules in any way.
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Post by right on Feb 15, 2024 17:55:56 GMT
Would the rule about not publicly admitting to voting against the official Labour candidate come into play? Obviously it wouldn't be enforced, but is it a technical breach? no. He is shown on the ballot paper as the Labour candidate, but he has lost the Party’s official backing. My sentence is not in breach of Labour Party rules in any way. Actually didn't think your sentence could be in breach. I thought it only applied to admitting you voted against a Labour candidate. If Ali was a candidate in good standing would saying you would hypothetically vote Lib Dem have been a technical breach?
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Post by batman on Feb 15, 2024 19:59:31 GMT
If he were officially sanctioned, yes I'd be in breach of party rules. In this instance I wasn't. I have voted against a Labour candidate, but not when I was a member of the Labour Party.
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Post by stb12 on Feb 15, 2024 21:51:06 GMT
If he were officially sanctioned, yes I'd be in breach of party rules. In this instance I wasn't. I have voted against a Labour candidate, but not when I was a member of the Labour Party. Of course the ballot box is private so you’d tend to think anyone coming out publicly on a tactical vote or any other reason must be looking to be suspended or expelled?
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Feb 15, 2024 22:49:48 GMT
Looks like a good argument for PR 🤭 There is NEVER a good argument for PR. Only confusion, envy and brain fade. Just look at the Dutch failing to form a government again...
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Post by No Offence Alan on Feb 15, 2024 23:04:35 GMT
Well, I am a tribal Lib Dem, so would of course vote Lib Dem here. The only party I might possibly give a tactical vote anywhere would be for Labour in Brighton Pavilion. Pretty sure I didn’t imagine you saying you’ve voted SNP in Paisley more than once? ? Only in the last council election where there wasn't a lib dem candidate.
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Post by London Lad on Feb 16, 2024 7:30:13 GMT
There is NEVER a good argument for PR. Only confusion, envy and brain fade. Just look at the Dutch failing to form a government again... Yes - because being able to form a Government has served us so well over the past 2 decades..
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Post by peterl on Feb 16, 2024 15:42:31 GMT
Just look at the Dutch failing to form a government again... Yes - because being able to form a Government has served us so well over the past 2 decades.. The electoral system can get you a majority government or not. For a good government, other aspects of the system might need to be reformed. Fiddling around with how people vote will only get you so far.
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Post by john07 on Feb 16, 2024 20:04:47 GMT
I've gone for LibDem though I don't envy the poor people of Rochdale having that choice to make. The ghost of Cyril Smith likes this comment.
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Post by gramps191919 on Feb 19, 2024 11:39:27 GMT
I've gone for LibDem though I don't envy the poor people of Rochdale having that choice to make. The ghost of Cyril Smith likes this comment. And here I am sat in the Rochdale by election HQ. Having just used Cyril’s throne. was he ever prosecuted?
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 19, 2024 12:13:59 GMT
No, but he clearly would have been had James Anderton not been a close friend.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 19, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
No, but he clearly would have been had James Anderton not been a close friend. Reading that too quickly had me wondering why Accrington's Brian Lara was involved.
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Post by bigfatron on Feb 19, 2024 13:18:48 GMT
No, but he clearly would have been had James Anderton not been a close friend. James Anderton was a truly evil individual - even going to uni in Manchester in the eighties was ‘interesting’, so god knows how the locals felt…
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 20, 2024 17:04:31 GMT
No, but he clearly would have been had James Anderton not been a close friend. James Anderton was a truly evil individual - even going to uni in Manchester in the eighties was ‘interesting’, so god knows how the locals felt… And even he thought the Tories were misusing the law against the miners (mind you, he was from a family who worked in the Wigan pits).
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