Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 2, 2023 18:53:02 GMT
I'm slightly struggling to align the timelines here. The story seems to imply both were MPs at the time of the affair. This MP was only elected in May 21, by which time Covid rules were already much more relaxed and the affair would be unlikely to be a breach...
Or was the affair before the by-election...
Or is the wrong MP
Or is my memory faulty...
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Dec 2, 2023 19:53:28 GMT
I'm slightly struggling to align the timelines here. The story seems to imply both were MPs at the time of the affair. This MP was only elected in May 21, by which time Covid rules were already much more relaxed and the affair would be unlikely to be a breach... Or was the affair before the by-election... Or is the wrong MP Or is my memory faulty... One of the issues appears to be why she would get the selection, which, it was reported at the time, did not please the local party. So, one an MSP and one became an MP, although it is, needless to say, hypothetical.
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Post by greyfriar on Dec 2, 2023 20:35:07 GMT
I'm slightly struggling to align the timelines here. The story seems to imply both were MPs at the time of the affair. This MP was only elected in May 21, by which time Covid rules were already much more relaxed and the affair would be unlikely to be a breach... Or was the affair before the by-election... Or is the wrong MP Or is my memory faulty... One of the issues appears to be why she would get the selection, which, it was reported at the time, did not please the local party. So, one an MSP and one became an MP, although it is, needless to say, hypothetical. Allegedly a rich father with influence - there was some earlier reporting of the discord within the local party: www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-snp-rising-star-accuses-30370321https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-snp-rising-star-accuses-30370321Echos of the more recent imposition of the serial runner-up Tony Guigliano at Falkirk:
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Post by jimboo2017 on Dec 3, 2023 0:29:42 GMT
Whilst we can say it is none of our business, and speaking hypothetically, if it transpired that a person, who was in a position of specific responsibility during the Lockdown period, broke the rules of which they were supposed to have oversight, how could they , in the light of what happened to Matt Hancock and (perhaps more interestingly) Margaret Ferrier, both of whom were viciously assailed by the SNP leadership, hope to remain in post? All hypothetical of course. Margaret Ferrier, hypothetically if an SNP MP voted to remove the whip from her, and it then became kown that that (is that that ok) MP had already broken lockdown rules and that that hypothetical MP attacked the Tories over Partygate there should be no option but to remove the whip. Now if the other hypothetical MP? MSP was in a position of specific responsibility as you say,well you know the rest
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Post by jimboo2017 on Dec 3, 2023 0:34:27 GMT
I'm slightly struggling to align the timelines here. The story seems to imply both were MPs at the time of the affair. This MP was only elected in May 21, by which time Covid rules were already much more relaxed and the affair would be unlikely to be a breach... Or was the affair before the by-election... Or is the wrong MP Or is my memory faulty... The alleged affair "continued" through Covid The story seems to imply both were MPs or an MP and MSP Your memory is better than any Scottish Politician
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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 11, 2023 21:19:25 GMT
Stewart Hosie has an impressive track record for a jug-lugged little troll
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jan 20, 2024 20:43:27 GMT
Stewart Hosie has an impressive track record for a jug-lugged little troll Makes me proud to be Scottish
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 20, 2024 21:30:50 GMT
It's good of the Mail to inform us (twice) that the affair was 'torrid'.
Is there any extramarital affair that the Mail would not describe as 'torrid'?
And what is the word 'torrid' contributing to this story anyway? What does it even mean in this context? After all, it would be possible for a married couple to engage in exciting and passionate sex with each other, but not even the Mail would describe such an activity as 'torrid'.
The word 'torrid' comes from the same Latin root word ( 'torrere' ) as the word 'toast'.
So if it was torrid, maybe, politically, they are toast?
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jan 20, 2024 23:53:06 GMT
Question to gayers. Are your affairs ever torrid? And these Muslim girls. When did they become such goers? Have thought about this, is it only in politics,
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 21, 2024 13:04:57 GMT
Is it just in politics, though. Its not unlike the stereotype about "good Catholic girls" and for similar reasons.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 21, 2024 13:12:43 GMT
Is it just in politics, though. Its not unlike the stereotype about "good Catholic girls" and for similar reasons. Do you speak from personal experience?
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Post by andrea on Jan 21, 2024 13:17:40 GMT
Its not unlike the stereotype about "good Catholic girls" and for similar reasons. The old saying was "Le figlie di Maria son le prime a darla via"...well, I will leave the translation to you.
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 21, 2024 22:19:51 GMT
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Post by skyep on Jan 22, 2024 11:31:46 GMT
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death...." Leviticus (20:10-12)
"If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you should take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death." Deuteronomy (22:22-24)
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jan 22, 2024 13:21:33 GMT
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death...." Leviticus (20:10-12)
"If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you should take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death." Deuteronomy (22:22-24)
Shoot the White officers and the prostitutes VI Lenin on the Kronstadt situation
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Post by Sandy on Jan 22, 2024 13:25:40 GMT
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death...." Leviticus (20:10-12)
"If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you should take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death." Deuteronomy (22:22-24)
“1. God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which he bound him and all his posterity to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience; promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it; and endued him with power and ability to keep it.a a. Gen 1:26-27 with 2:17; Job 28:28; Eccl 7:29; Rom 2:14-15; 5:12, 19; 10:5; Gal 3:10, 12. 2. This law, after his fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon mount Sinai in ten commandments, and written in two tables;a the first four commandments containing our duty towards God, and the other six our duty to man.b a. Exod 34:1; Deut 5:32; 10:4; Rom 13:8-9; James 1:25; 2:8, 10-12. • b. Mat 22:37-40. 3. Beside this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a Church under age, ceremonial laws, containing several typical ordinances, partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, his graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits;a and partly holding forth divers instructions of moral duties.b All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated under the New Testament.c a. Gal 4:1-3; Col 2:17; Heb 9 throughout; 10:1. • b. 1 Cor 5:7; 2 Cor 6:17; Jude 1:23. • c. Dan 9:27; Eph 2:15-16; Col 2:14, 16-17. 4. To them also, as a body politic, he gave sundry judicial laws, which expired together with the State of that people, not obliging any other, now, further than the general equity thereof may require.a a. Gen 49:10 with 1 Pet 2:13-14; Exod 21 throughout; 22:1-29; Mat 5:17 with 5:38-39; 1 Cor 9:8-10.“
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 22, 2024 16:11:32 GMT
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death...." Leviticus (20:10-12)
"If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you should take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death." Deuteronomy (22:22-24)
Of course, for a Christian, Jesus's example of forgiveness and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is the fundamental teaching.
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 22, 2024 21:20:25 GMT
Why did Jesus never denounce the Old Testement?
Is he not a bit like the Lib Dems, one leaflet for the town centre, (we need more affordable housing and forgive sinners) and another for the outlying villages (NIMBY and more cops needed on beat)
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Post by Sandy on Jan 22, 2024 21:56:33 GMT
Why did Jesus never denounce the Old Testement? Is he not a bit like the Lib Dems, one leaflet for the town centre, (we need more affordable housing and forgive sinners) and another for the outlying villages (NIMBY and more cops needed on beat) Have you ever read The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis? With work of this quality you’ll never make it past being Beelzebub’s secretary.
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 22, 2024 22:11:36 GMT
It was dull and contrived with an obvious twist. I think I was 15.
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