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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 18, 2023 21:55:24 GMT
I’ve often thought that postcodes are probably a more accurate reflection of identity than local authorities. Some notable exceptions aside (DN and PE for example) the postcode areas would make good upper tier authorities and the postal towns would be good municipal/second tier authorities. The PA (Paisley) postcode might be problematic. It includes Argyll and Bute. I think this is due to Glasgow Airport being within the PA postcode, and the mail then being flown, or ferried, out to the far-flung parts. Happy to be corrected if this is just a myth. |
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Post by ilerda on Oct 18, 2023 22:25:08 GMT
I certainly don’t think there wouldn’t need to be tweaks in some areas (Shrewsbury and Paisley are good examples alongside the aforementioned Doncaster and Peterborough). But as a starting point for administration I think they make better sense than traditional counties do.
And I’m sure we could mount an effective campaign to have the Slough ‘département’ renamed Windsor.
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Post by maxque on Oct 18, 2023 23:47:32 GMT
I’ve often thought that postcodes are probably a more accurate reflection of identity than local authorities. Some notable exceptions aside (DN and PE for example) the postcode areas would make good upper tier authorities and the postal towns would be good municipal/second tier authorities. The PA (Paisley) postcode might be problematic. It includes Argyll and Bute. I think this is due to Glasgow Airport being within the PA postcode, and the mail then being flown, or ferried, out to the far-flung parts. Happy to be corrected if this is just a myth. Apperently, until 1995, it was stretching up to Stornoway. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 19, 2023 3:11:22 GMT
The PA (Paisley) postcode might be problematic. It includes Argyll and Bute. I think this is due to Glasgow Airport being within the PA postcode, and the mail then being flown, or ferried, out to the far-flung parts. Happy to be corrected if this is just a myth. Apperently, until 1995, it was stretching up to Stornoway. Also, really weirdly, PERTH includes all the way to the Isle of Rum off the *west* coast. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 19, 2023 9:18:46 GMT
Apperently, until 1995, it was stretching up to Stornoway. Also, really weirdly, PERTH includes all the way to the Isle of Rum off the *west* coast. That's a bit of a rum do. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 19, 2023 9:59:47 GMT
I’ve often thought that postcodes are probably a more accurate reflection of identity than local authorities. Some notable exceptions aside (DN and PE for example) the postcode areas would make good upper tier authorities and the postal towns would be good municipal/second tier authorities. Not sure a Shrewsbury-centred upper tier authority would sit well in Aberystwyth . . . LL for North Wales, CF for South. Can't see the problem there. *runs away* *rhedeg* |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 19, 2023 12:26:15 GMT
Also, really weirdly, PERTH includes all the way to the Isle of Rum off the *west* coast. That's a bit of a rum do. Its nearby island Muck is actually one of the few inhabited places in the UK without a postal service. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 19, 2023 13:23:02 GMT
I certainly don’t think there wouldn’t need to be tweaks in some areas (Shrewsbury and Paisley are good examples alongside the aforementioned Doncaster and Peterborough). But as a starting point for administration I think they make better sense than traditional counties do. And I’m sure we could mount an effective campaign to have the Slough ‘département’ renamed Windsor. Actually, I think the PE postcode area is fairly sensible - you might want to snip off the eastern edge and Skegness, but otherwise it's a reasonable approximation of the areas that do look to the eponymous town. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Oct 19, 2023 16:26:33 GMT
Also, really weirdly, PERTH includes all the way to the Isle of Rum off the *west* coast. That's a bit of a rum do. That's over egging it. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 19, 2023 16:51:56 GMT
That's a bit of a rum do. That's over egging it. I Canna agree. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Oct 19, 2023 16:53:43 GMT
It never Uist to be the case
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 19, 2023 16:55:25 GMT
It never Uist to be the case Aye, but these days you can't get the Staffa. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 19, 2023 16:59:00 GMT
The Skye is the limit with this group of puns. I'm going to have to mull it over a bit before I come up with one
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 19, 2023 17:02:29 GMT
The Skye is the limit with this group of puns. I'm going to have to mull it over a bit before I come up with one Don't Coll us, we'll Coll you. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 19, 2023 17:21:29 GMT
I’ve often thought that postcodes are probably a more accurate reflection of identity than local authorities. Some notable exceptions aside (DN and PE for example) the postcode areas would make good upper tier authorities and the postal towns would be good municipal/second tier authorities. In most Northern cities, people identify which part of the city they live in by the postcode. Unfortunately in London, some of the younger Londoners identify which gang they're in by the postcode sector. But outside there, it's probably something that matters to postal delivery and nothing else. Then there are places where they've messed around with postcodes. In Cardiff, CF1, CF2, and CF4 have all been broken up into weird numbers that look like they should be halfway to Brecon in my lifetime. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 19, 2023 17:32:58 GMT
The Skye is the limit with this group of puns. I'm going to have to mull it over a bit before I come up with one Don't Coll us, we'll Coll you. One or two puns are OK, but Tiree is the limit. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 19, 2023 17:40:04 GMT
Don't Coll us, we'll Coll you. One or two puns are OK, but Tiree is the limit. You trying to Hirta my feelings? |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 19, 2023 19:18:00 GMT
In most Northern cities, people identify which part of the city they live in by the postcode. Unfortunately in London, some of the younger Londoners identify which gang they're in by the postcode sector. But outside there, it's probably something that matters to postal delivery and nothing else. Then there are places where they've messed around with postcodes. In Cardiff, CF1, CF2, and CF4 have all been broken up into weird numbers that look like they should be halfway to Brecon in my lifetime. Near here they created PR25 and PR26 to deal with house building in the South Ribble/Chorley borderlands. |
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Post by ilerda on Oct 19, 2023 20:20:00 GMT
Then there are places where they've messed around with postcodes. In Cardiff, CF1, CF2, and CF4 have all been broken up into weird numbers that look like they should be halfway to Brecon in my lifetime. Near here they created PR25 and PR26 to deal with house building in the South Ribble/Chorley borderlands. But when did we last create a new district to account for population growth and new communities? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 19, 2023 20:54:48 GMT
Near here they created PR25 and PR26 to deal with house building in the South Ribble/Chorley borderlands. But when did we last create a new district to account for population growth and new communities? Milton Keynes?
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