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May 7, 2024 17:01:03 GMT
Post by gibbon on May 7, 2024 17:01:03 GMT
It is very easy to utter the words of apology but another to show that those words are sincere. I am sure he will be judged by his words and actions throughout his time as a member of Council. How do his colleagues in the Green Group of Leeds City Council think about him?
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May 8, 2024 16:59:06 GMT
Post by maxque on May 8, 2024 16:59:06 GMT
www.leeds.gov.uk/your-council/elections/leeds-city-council-election-resultsLabour gain over Conservative in: Ardsley and Robin Hood (by 785 votes) Calverley and Farsley (by 332 votes) Guiseley and Rawdon (by 822 votes) Horsforth (by 2417 votes, confirms by-election gain) Green gain over Labour in: Armley (by 72 votes) Gipton and Harehills (by 747 votes) Headingley and Hyde Park (by 530 votes) Labour gain over Green in: Farnley and Wortley (by 505 votes) Social Democrat gain over Labour in: Middleton Park (by 244 votes)
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May 8, 2024 17:29:48 GMT
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Post by jamie on May 8, 2024 17:29:48 GMT
Labour gain over Conservative in: Ardsley and Robin Hood (by 785 votes) Calverley and Farsley (by 332 votes) Guiseley and Rawdon (by 822 votes) Horsforth (by 2417 votes)I had to check that wasn’t a typo!
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May 8, 2024 18:37:00 GMT
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Post by kvasir on May 8, 2024 18:37:00 GMT
Horsforth was a hold
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Post by maxque on May 8, 2024 19:02:49 GMT
A hold from the 2022 double election, but a gain from 2021.
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May 8, 2024 19:44:44 GMT
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Post by kvasir on May 8, 2024 19:44:44 GMT
A hold from the 2022 double election, but a gain from 2021. Fair point.
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May 13, 2024 0:11:00 GMT
Post by blocktext on May 13, 2024 0:11:00 GMT
carolinelucas.com/response-to-queries-about-leeds-councillor-mothin-aliA Statement from Caroline Lucas The Green Party is striving for a society in which everyone feels safe, included, welcomed and respected. It is the responsibility of all members and representatives to work continuously to ensure that is the case. I am aware that there are reports of comments from Mothin Ali which require further investigation and I have urged that to happen swiftly with follow up as appropriate. It is important to note that the Green Party has a duty of care to Mr Ali and anyone who has been subjected to the kind of racism and harassment he has experienced in the past few days. It is also important to allow that process to take place fairly and it would be wrong for me to either prejudge or influence the outcome of that investigation. However, there are a number of points I can and do wish to make at this stage. Firstly, that the language we use in public life matters and I recognise and share concerns about some of the statements as reported from Mr Ali. I therefore welcome that he has made an apology and I hope he will work with the wider Jewish community in order to rebuild trust. Secondly, people across the UK are understandably deeply concerned about the situation in the Middle East, with a particular focus now on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The fact that Mothin Ali decided to use his platform to advocate on their behalf is consistent with Green Party policy, which calls for an immediate and unconditional release of the hostages being held by Hamas, an immediate bilateral ceasefire, an end to the occupation of Palestine, and a two state solution. We have condemned the brutal attacks of October 7th and continue to promote peace and justice for all Israelis and Palestinians. Finally, to those who take offence at Mr Ali’s statement of “Allahu Akbar”, or “God is great” – a phrase regularly used by Muslims in prayer or thanksgiving – I will continue to defend his or any candidate’s right to praise their god publicly, whether that’s in line with their beliefs as a Muslim, Christian or any other religion. There is no place for either antisemitism or islamophobia in our Party or in wider society, and I am committed to doing all I can to support the cross-party, cross-society effort needed to counter and dismantle racism and bigotry wherever it’s found.
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Post by kvasir on May 13, 2024 14:58:42 GMT
| Leeds City Council | West Yorkshire Mayor (Leeds) | Difference |
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Electorate | 578,054 | 578,054 | | Labour Party (+ Cooperative Party optional) | 85,055 | 107,011 | -21,956 | Conservative and Unionist Party | 40,327 | 25,563 | 14,764 | Liberal Democrats | 18,527 | 12,971 | 5,556 | Green Party of England and Wales | 32,085 | 22,097 | 9,988 | Yorkshire Party | 4,064 | 19,062 | -14,998 | Social Democratic Party | 3,173 | | 3,173 | Trade Unionist Socialist Coalition | 675 | | 675 | Alliance for Green Socialism | 222 | | 222 | Reform UK | 2,613 | | 2,613 | Garforth and Swillington Independents Party | 3,469 | | 3,469 | Morley Borough Independents | 4,538 | | 4,538 | Independent/ No Description | 1,554 | 7,479 | -5,925 | Legal Turnout | 196,302 | 194,183 | 2,119 | | | | | Spoilt Ballot | 1,370 | | |
Comparing the votes for the Leeds City Council and the votes for the West Yorkshire Mayoral election in Leeds is really interesting. We see Tracy Brabin doing significantly better than the Labour Party councillors in aggregate. This is probably in part due to popularity, and more choice (in general) on offer in ward elections. Local parties like the Morley Borough Independents and the Garforth and Swillington Independents Party stand and attract voters who with less options would plump for bigger parties. Some of it is probably also a question of tactical voting. People know that the race for Mayor is basically between the Labour Party and the Conservative and Unionist Party and therefore choose between them. However, they really like the Local Otley Liberal Democrats (say) or the Social Democratic Party guy in Middleton Park. The Conservative and Unionist Party doing better at the council level is probably also an incumbency effect. People are not happy to vote straight ticket the Conservative and Unionist Party, but they really like their local councillor. Its also clear that the Yorkshire Party would have done better had they stood in more seats. They tend to do better at these regional level votes, like for mayoralties. I fear their future development as a party is hindered on candidate recruitment.
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May 13, 2024 15:35:27 GMT
Post by Ron Swanson on May 13, 2024 15:35:27 GMT
I suppose the deposit amount is a hindrance to smaller parties standing in the mayoral elections.
And (I assume) the cost of participating in the shared election address booklet, which can't be cheap.
The Yorkshire Party might not have much longer, given that the entire county has (or will soon have) devolution deals in place. I know it was the reason why at least one member left.
I'm not sure how the SDP will get on outside of Middleton, Wayne is up for election next and should walk it... but their results elsewhere aren't great, ranging from 8 votes (ouch) in Morley S to 252 in Beeston.
I suppose the very least that parties need to do if they're trying to build, would be to stand a candidate in every ward. But actual campaigning costs money... and if you want to start targeting postals would be time consuming too.
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Post by gibbon on May 14, 2024 8:36:25 GMT
I very much doubt that the statement from Caroline Lucas will impress those who were offended by Mothin Ali's remarks and it is very likely that they will trawl through many of his previous statements, if they have not done so already. I anticipate that every time she is interviewed these remarks and other statements will be highlighted and challenged. This will not go away.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 14, 2024 10:11:45 GMT
I very much doubt that the statement from Caroline Lucas will impress those who were offended by Mothin Ali's remarks and it is very likely that they will trawl through many of his previous statements, if they have not done so already. I anticipate that every time she is interviewed these remarks and other statements will be highlighted and challenged. This will not go away. Agree, they’ll just have to get rid of him. My advice would be to do it straight away, I don’t have any particular affection for the Green Party but it would be a shame if those who joined up because they hold left wing views on most things and are keen environmentalists find themselves represented by and tarred with the same brush as religious hard liners like Cllr Ali.
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May 14, 2024 13:48:39 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on May 14, 2024 13:48:39 GMT
I very much doubt that the statement from Caroline Lucas will impress those who were offended by Mothin Ali's remarks and it is very likely that they will trawl through many of his previous statements, if they have not done so already. I anticipate that every time she is interviewed these remarks and other statements will be highlighted and challenged. This will not go away. Agree, they’ll just have to get rid of him. My advice would be to do it straight away, I don’t have any particular affection for the Green Party but it would be a shame if those who joined up because they hold left wing views on most things and are keen environmentalists find themselves represented by and tarred with the same brush as religious hard liners like Cllr Ali. "Continuing UK arms sales to Israel puts the government and Ministers in a clear position of complicity with Israel's war crimes. 69% of Britons want Israel to stop military action in Gaza & favour a ceasefire. The government needs to listen" The Green party are right.
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May 14, 2024 14:17:29 GMT
Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on May 14, 2024 14:17:29 GMT
Agree, they’ll just have to get rid of him. My advice would be to do it straight away, I don’t have any particular affection for the Green Party but it would be a shame if those who joined up because they hold left wing views on most things and are keen environmentalists find themselves represented by and tarred with the same brush as religious hard liners like Cllr Ali. "Continuing UK arms sales to Israel puts the government and Ministers in a clear position of complicity with Israel's war crimes. 69% of Britons want Israel to stop military action in Gaza & favour a ceasefire. The government needs to listen" The Green party are right. Where does that % come from and what questions were asked to get that answer?
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Post by Merseymike on May 14, 2024 14:42:51 GMT
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