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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 4, 2023 17:44:42 GMT
Two examples of Labour candidates taking opposition leaflets from homes have been highlighted in recent weeks. So, have you ever removed an opposition candidate/party’s leaflet from private property?
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Jack
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Post by Jack on May 4, 2023 18:26:14 GMT
Let's be honest, representatives of every party have done this.
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Post by r34t on May 4, 2023 19:25:27 GMT
A shockingly undemocratic process that I would never consider & haven't taken part in for at least 20 minutes .
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Post by greenchristian on May 4, 2023 19:54:08 GMT
There is no option for picking it up from the ground outside the building, but within the property line. Or for picking it up from the pavement outside the property line.
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Post by Sg1 on May 4, 2023 20:04:56 GMT
There is no option for picking it up from the ground outside the building, but within the property line. Or for picking it up from the pavement outside the property line. That's so lazy that it deserves to be punished. Unless there was literally no other way I'd always post all the way through.
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Post by wallington on May 4, 2023 20:58:25 GMT
Let's be honest, representatives of every party have done this. yeah, i've done it in the past, but learnt it's a pretty pointless thing to do, leaflets don't win elections. The dude in Bournemouth saw the camera doorbell, we are in an age where these are common place and people on social media will make mountains out of mole hills. You haven't got to push it through, you could easily 'mistakenly' drop it to the floor of the porch as you push yours through. Always be aware of your surroundings. And if you're leafleting push it through! It's not rocket science.
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 4, 2023 21:00:50 GMT
Let's be honest, representatives of every party have done this. yeah, i've done it in the past, but learnt it's a pretty pointless thing to do, leaflets don't win elections. The dude in Bournemouth saw the camera doorbell, we are in an age where these are common place and people on social media will make mountains out of mole hills. You haven't got to push it through, you could easily 'mistakenly' drop it to the floor of the porch as you push yours through. Always be aware of your surroundings. The only point of collecting leaflets is to get a copy of what has gone out. Mass harvesting is pointless, and also flies in the face of "don't respond to your opponent". Concentrate on *your* campiaign.
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Post by batman on May 4, 2023 21:04:17 GMT
I can't pretend I've never done it. I haven't recently though, as it happens.
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Post by carlton43 on May 4, 2023 22:12:57 GMT
4-solid affirmative votes. All instances a long time ago.
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Post by carswellfan on May 4, 2023 22:28:48 GMT
Yes of course. I don't know one activist who hasn't done this at some point. It can be all too easy to do. Too much hypocrisy from all sides on Twitter today with the footage of the Labour candidate doing this.
Granted, on most occasions when I have had a chance to do so, I feel slightly guilty and mostly don't.
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Post by cj on May 4, 2023 22:47:12 GMT
Nice try copper
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Post by johnloony on May 4, 2023 22:47:53 GMT
It is justifiable for 2 reasons.
1. The leaflet, if left for a prolonged period of time, advertises the fact that the householder has not retrieved it and that the house is therefore vulnerable to burglary. It also props open the letterbox and lets in the draught. The person who removes the leaflet is therefore doing a responsible and valuable service to the householder.
2. The person who irresponsibly left it there, and the party which commissioned him to deliver it, deserve to be punished for the irresponsible and anti-social action of not delivering it properly.
I am surprised that one candidate is reported to have been suspended from his party after “admitting” to removing a leaflet. If i had been in that situation, i would not “admit” doing it. I would state as a fact that i had done it, and that I was fully justified in doing so.
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Post by Pimpernal on May 5, 2023 7:11:24 GMT
The rule is if it interferes with your ability to deliver your own literature then, as you are under no obligation to do finish the poorly executed efforts of a rival party, and it happens to fall out of the letterbox as you deliver your own literature and falls on the ground it becomes litter. And you shoud pick litter up and take it home with you or dispose of responsibly.
Especially if you haven't seen said leaflet because they don't deliver to your own residence...
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Post by r34t on May 5, 2023 10:01:30 GMT
The rule is if it interferes with your ability to deliver your own literature then, as you are under no obligation to do finish the poorly executed efforts of a rival party, and it happens to fall out of the letterbox as you deliver your own literature and falls on the ground it becomes litter. And you shoud pick litter up and take it home with you or dispose of responsibly. Especially if you haven't seen said leaflet because they don't deliver to your own residence... And as a member of a political party I can't post it after it fell out, as delivering literature from a political opponent makes me liable to expulsion.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 5, 2023 10:01:30 GMT
Let's be honest, representatives of every party have done this. There are many parties that have done nothing but register their name and others that seem to do nothing to actually engage with voters on the ground, just tweet things out and hold rallies where enthusiasts can be counted on one hand. Has, say, True [sic] & Fair [sic] ever made the slightest effort to send activists out delivering leaflets?
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