dundas
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Post by dundas on Oct 21, 2022 12:53:05 GMT
Does he win the subsequent leadership election? How do his lockdown policies differ from those of Keir Starmer? And how would Labour be polling now? Also of interest is does this cause splits and purges within Labour?
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 21, 2022 13:32:47 GMT
He would have lost any leadership election after the 2019 rout, he knew this and that is maybe the main reason why he didn't even attempt to stay on.
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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 21, 2022 13:32:54 GMT
Does he win the subsequent leadership election? How do his lockdown policies differ from those of Keir Starmer? And how would Labour be polling now? Also of interest is does this cause splits and purges within Labour? It's not impossible he wins a contest. In 2020 a membership survey gave him an approval rating of 70%. I think a lot of people who voted for him though in 2015/16 wouldn't in 2020. I've a lot of friends who voted for Corbyn who became disillusioned. I don't see lockdown being hugely different. I think Corbyn personally voted against lockdown legislation due to the financial support on offer. I guess Tories would be polling in the toilet still but labour wouldn't have the leads they do now. There probably would be a split. A lot stuck around in the hope they'd win the party back
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dundas
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Post by dundas on Oct 21, 2022 19:27:21 GMT
He would have lost any leadership election after the 2019 rout, he knew this and that is maybe the main reason why he didn't even attempt to stay on. I'm sure he thought he'd be respected as a luminary of the party rather than cast out. If he lost to Starmer by a couple of % points, it would have strengthened his case in his subsequent suspension from the party.
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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 21, 2022 22:00:42 GMT
He would have lost any leadership election after the 2019 rout, he knew this and that is maybe the main reason why he didn't even attempt to stay on. the main reason is he didn't want to be leader and I understand he was considered resigning in 2016 but stayed because of other people pushing him to do so
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Post by stb12 on Oct 22, 2022 10:59:35 GMT
He would have lost any leadership election after the 2019 rout, he knew this and that is maybe the main reason why he didn't even attempt to stay on. the main reason is he didn't want to be leader and I understand he was considered resigning in 2016 but stayed because of other people pushing him to do so And the 2017 election being so much better than expected meant resigning after that would have looked strange i'd imagine
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Post by mattbewilson on Oct 22, 2022 16:24:04 GMT
the main reason is he didn't want to be leader and I understand he was considered resigning in 2016 but stayed because of other people pushing him to do so And the 2017 election being so much better than expected meant resigning after that would have looked strange i'd imagine I think if the election has taken place in 2023 Corbyn would have stood down in 21/22. There's three letters published in the guardian responding to recent column Corbyn wrote. All fairly supportive if one actually advocating MPs deciding leaders. One suggested a post COVID world being more open to the left. Whether you think that true I think it's relevant to this conversation
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