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Post by john07 on Jun 21, 2022 23:56:44 GMT
Livingston is a fairly recent creation as a Constituency. Until 1983, it formed part of the West Lothian (and later Linlithgow) Constituency. The growth in population of the Constituency (formerly Linlithgowshire), partially down to the designation of a New Town in Livingston in 1962, meant that inevitably, it would have to be split. The North East of the seat formed the core of Linlithgow and Falkirk East, while the remainder became the new seat of Livingston. Robin Cook, whose Edinburgh Central seat went in the same review of seats, was elected as MP and stayed there until his death in 2005. The seat remained safe Labour until the SNP surge in 2015 led to Hannah Bardell winning with a massive 31% swing. The seat is largely rural apart from the area of the designated New Town and a number of small towns and settlements such as Winchburgh, Broxburn, Dechmont, Kirknewton, and the Calders. Anyone who has visited the Constituency can have failed to notice the large number of roundabouts some having quirky artworks, This betwildered many visiting motorists prior to the advent of GPS satnavs. The Constituency is crossed by a couple of railway lines. The Airdrie-Bathgate line has stations at Uphall and Livingston North, while the Edinburgh-Glasgow line via Shotts also crosses the Constituency with several stations including Kirknewton, Livingston South, West Calder, etc.
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Post by stb12 on Jun 22, 2022 0:11:07 GMT
Livingston is quite well known (in Scotland anyway) for the football club who were in a sense only formed in 1995 after the relocation of Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh to the new town. They've had quite a bit of success in that short time with several top flight spells, winning the League Cup in 2004 and even qualifying for Europe one season. Despite significant financial issues including two administrations they're in the top league right now and more than holding their own
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 22, 2022 7:00:31 GMT
Livingston is quite well known (in Scotland anyway) for the football club who were in a sense only formed in 1995 after the relocation of Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh to the new town. They've had quite a bit of success in that short time with several top flight spells, winning the League Cup in 2004 and even qualifying for Europe one season. Despite significant financial issues including two administrations they're in the top league right now and more than holding their own Livi are sponsored by a chain of Italian restaurants. So, while their stadium is officially the Tony Macaroni Arena it is colloquially known as the Spaghettihad.
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Post by john07 on Jun 22, 2022 14:20:08 GMT
Livingston is quite well known (in Scotland anyway) for the football club who were in a sense only formed in 1995 after the relocation of Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh to the new town. They've had quite a bit of success in that short time with several top flight spells, winning the League Cup in 2004 and even qualifying for Europe one season. Despite significant financial issues including two administrations they're in the top league right now and more than holding their own Livingston FC played their first few matches at Meadowbank in Edinburgh as the new stadium was not complete. When the Scottish New Town Development Corporations were wound up, both Cumbernauld and Livingston used some of their residual assets to build football stadia. Clyde were attracted to Cumbernauld (although East Kilbride would have been a far better fit) and Meadowbank Thistle moved to Livingston.
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 23, 2022 9:14:21 GMT
2011 Census
Age 65+ 12.8% 553/650 Owner-occupied 63.2% 424/650 Private rented 9.7% 589/650 Social rented 26.2% 93/650 White 97.0% 226/650 Black 0.4% 414/650 Asian 2.1% 355/650 Managerial & professional 26.0% Routine & Semi-routine 32.6% Degree level 19.9% 513/650 Level 1 qualifications 29.3% 1/650 No qualifications 26.5% 194/650 Students 6.5% 381/650
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 23, 2022 14:47:24 GMT
General Election 2019: Livingston
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
SNP Hannah Bardell 25,617 46.9 +6.8 Conservative Damian Timson 12,182 22.3 -2.1 Labour Caitlin Kane 11,915 21.8 -10.9 Liberal Democrats Charles Dundas 3,457 6.3 +3.4 Green Cameron Glasgow 1,421 2.6 New
SNP Majority 13,435 24.6 +17.2
2019 electorate 82,825
Turnout 54,592 66.3 +1.6
SNP hold
Swings 8.8 Lab to SNP, 4.5 C to SNP
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Post by ntyuk1707 on Apr 26, 2023 18:21:58 GMT
Livingston is a county constituency covering the western portion of the River Almond Valley area up to the border with the City of Edinburgh to the east. The constituency is fully contained within the West Lothian Council area, being dominated by the purpose-built new town of Livingston and housing several ex-mining towns and villages along the course of the River Almond and its tributary streams.
The town of Livingston contains around 60% of the seat's total electorate. Livingston was designated as an overspill new town to accommodate slum clearances in Glasgow and Edinburgh in 1962. It contains many large boulevard roads and roundabouts which subdivide the town into numerous distinct and seemingly remote neighbourhoods. Most parts of the town tend to be more socially deprived than the Scottish national average, with several brutalist 60s and 70s ex-council estates in central, northern and eastern parts of the town including Deans, Knightsridge, Craigshill, Howden, Ladywell and Dedridge. But in contrast to this, there has been significant new-build development in recent years in Murieston, Bellsquarry, Eliburn and parts of Carmondean in southern, western and northern parts of Livingston respectively, where there are road and rail links to the City of Edinburgh and a growing influx of middle-class new-build tenants.
Livingston's well-designed road network and geographic location at the heart of the populous Central Belt of Scotland between Glasgow and Edinburgh has allowed the town to attract scientific research, engineering, technology and distribution companies in industrial estates on the outskirts of the town, for example, Amazon's main distribution centre in Scotland is located 6-miles west of Livingston just outside of Bathgate. At the heart of Livingston is the 'Centre' and 'Designer Outlet' shopping malls and their adjoining retail parks, which are substantial employers for residents of the town and surrounding communities. Commuter data based on the result of the 2011 Scottish Census also indicates that thousands of residents of the town commute into the City of Edinburgh for work.
Livingston has more children, young people and working-aged people than the national average, with a higher proportion of married couples and people working in full-time employment, average rates of owner-occupation and social housing, and higher rates of social deprivation.
Politically, the town has always been a better area for the SNP than elsewhere in the Labour-dominated Scottish Central Belt. From Livingston's designation as a new town in 1962 until 1983, it was represented in the House of Commons as part of West Lothian constituency, which was best known for its third and final MP Tam Dalyell of the Labour Party, whose questions on Scottish devolution's consequences of having Scottish MPs voting on matters affecting the rest of the UK only being labelled "the West Lothian question". Mr Dalyell was elected in a by-election in 1962, where he won the seat with an increased majority of 11,516 (27.5%) for Labour, taking nearly twice as many votes as second-placed William Wolfe of the SNP. From then until the seat's abolishment, Mr Wolfe of the SNP contested the seat against Tam Dalyell at every general election, gradually increasing the SNP's vote share throughout the 1960s and 1970s, before coming within 2,690 votes of gaining the seat from Labour at the October 1974 general election, no doubt thanks to a higher SNP vote in the town of Livingston itself.
Indeed, at the corresponding 1974 and 1977 local government elections, the SNP topped the poll in 3 out of 5 wards in Livingston, taking 72% of the vote in Craigshill and 70% of the vote in Carmondean in 1977. Support for the SNP was mixed after 1977, with the party losing all of its councillors in Livingston in 1980 but then going on to top the poll ahead of Labour at the 1982 regional election, then dipping again before regaining 2 out of 7 councillors in 1988, 4 out of 11 councillors in 1999 and 2003, and 6 out of 12 council seats from 2007 until the present day, with the town electing its first set of Conservative councillors in 2017 under the more proportional Single Transferable Vote voting system.
As with other parts of Scotland, voting behaviour in Livingston today tends to follow social demographic lines, with the affluent middle-class neighbourhoods of Murieston and Bellsquarry in southern Livingston being the worst areas for the SNP and best areas for Labour at last year's council elections with Murieston South polling district voting 50% Labour, 20% SNP and 19% Conservative. In contrast to this, deprived ex-council estates tended to be stronger for the SNP, with a 62% SNP vote to 20% Labour and 11% Conservative vote in Knightsridge East polling district on the opposite side of the town. The three wards covering the town had an SNP vote of 43% ahead of Labour on 26% and the Conservatives on 17%, being the SNP's strongest area and Labour's weakest in the constituency. Despite having a strong history of SNP representation, it is estimated that the town narrowly rejected Scottish independence at the 2014 Scottish independence referendum, with a 51% No vote to 49% Yes vote, ranging from 74% No in Murieston South to 65% Yes in Knightsridge East.
Approaching Edinburgh from Livingston are the villages of East Calder and more remote Kirknewton where, in spite of slightly lower rates of deprivation than Livingston itself, support for the SNP and independence is markedly higher. Here again, there is a long history of voting SNP dating back to a breakthrough for the party in the 1960s. These villages voted 45% SNP, 20% Conservative and 19% Labour last year, with an estimated 55% Yes vote at the 2014 independence referendum.
On the other side of the M8, the old shale mining towns of Uphall and Broxburn and nearby village of Winchburgh share a similar demographic profile to that of Livingston, with higher rates of social renting and a growing middle-class population as a result of new build development in recent decades owing to their proximity to the City of Edinburgh. Dominating the backdrop of these towns are vast piles of red spent ash waste from post-mining processes. This dramatic and quite picturesque red hill formation is a distinct feature in the local landscape. These traditionally Labour mining towns around the formation turned towards the SNP intermittently throughout the 1970s, 80s and 90s before becoming more securely SNP in the 2010s. But whilst the SNP led in Broxburn, Uphall & Winchburgh ward in May last year with 42% of the vote to 30% for Labour and 18% for the Conservatives, the ward returned a nasty shock for the SNP in December 2022 when almost all polling districts in the area voted Labour in a council by-election and the SNP lost 7% of their vote share to take 35% of the vote compared to Labour's 40%. This ward is representative of much of West Lothian, which has been considered an SNP stronghold for over a decade. It is estimated to have voted close to the national average at the 2014 independence referendum at 54% No to 46% Yes, ranging from 61% No in the village of Dechmont and outlying areas to 62% Yes in Uphall Central.
The demography and political profile of the seat changes as you head west from the opposite side of Livingston and upstream along the River Almond and its tributaries to Scotland's coal mining heartlands.
From Livingston to the western border of the West Lothian Council area along the River Breich are ex-coal mining towns and villages including Bents, Addiewell, Stoneyburn, Loganlea and Fauldhouse, where rates of social deprivation and social renting are notably higher than the national average. The constituency also covers the eastern side of Blackburn and the village of Seafield immediately west of Livingston.
Travelling up the valley from Livingston towards North Lanarkshire, one will note a substantial number of Union Flags as you head further away from Livingston and towards Fauldhouse, a historically Loyalist Working Class town. The overlapping Fauldhouse and Breich Valley ward is the only part of West Lothian which has remained persistently loyal to Labour in council elections dating back to the emergence of the SNP as a political force in West Lothian in the 1960s, however last year it was a close result for the party at 40% Labour, 38% SNP and 14% Conservative, carried by a 49% Labour vote to 33% SNP vote in Fauldhouse in contrast to a 47% SNP vote to 29% Labour vote in Breich & Longridge polling districts and 46% SNP vote to 35% Labour vote in Loganlea & Addiewell. Alongside Labour-leaning eastern Blackburn and Seafield, the ward had the highest No vote to independence in the 2014 independence referendum of all council wards in Livingston constituency, returning an estimated 58% No vote overall and ranging from a 63% No vote in Fauldhouse to a 50% Yes vote in Breich & Longridge. Taken on the whole, Livingston is an archetypical constituency in the Central Belt of Scotland, containing many former mining communities where there are high rates of social deprivation and social renting, a more affluent commuter component in some neighbourhoods towards Edinburgh, and ‘60s and ‘70s ex-council housing in the new town of Livingston itself. It is for the most part more socially deprived than not, and ranks among the top 15% of constituencies in the UK for social renting.
Since the 1997 general election, the Livingston constituency returned Labour majorities of over 10,000 votes until Hannah Bardell won the seat with a 16,843 vote majority for the SNP in 2015. The Conservatives placed second here ahead of Labour at the 2019 general election, marking the seat one of the SNP's safest in the whole of Scotland. Equally, in the Scottish Parliament SNP Justice Minister Angela Constance has represented the overlapping Livingston and later Almond Valley constituencies since 2007, increasing her majority ahead of Labour to 12,130 votes in 2021.
Livingston constituency is estimated to have had a higher-than-average Leave vote relative to the rest of Scotland at the 2016 EU membership referendum at 56% Remain to 44% Leave, and it is estimated to have voted against Scottish independence by a margin of 53% No to 47% Yes.
Boundary changes here will see the loss of Blackburn East and Seafield to Linlithgow, being slightly detrimental to Labour and beneficial to the SNP.
Labour’s recent advance in the Uphall, Broxburn & Winchburgh by-election is a worrying sign for the SNP that they cannot take this seat for granted as current polling would suggest Labour are on the ascendency in many of the former mining towns and villages on the periphery of this seat. But crucial to the SNP’s success is of course the town of Livingston itself, and for Labour to have any hope of winning the seat they will need to win the support of enough Working Class Yes voters in Livingston who have been generally less willing to give Labour their vote in the past compared to more 'traditional' Labour voters around Greater Glasgow, Fife and other parts of Lothian.
A Labour win in Livingston would likely reflect significant gains across Scotland and bode well for the party in other new town dominated constituencies based around Glenrothes, East Kilbride and Cumbernauld, and perhaps a fully blown Labour recovery in the Scottish Central Belt. This currently does not appear to be on the cards at the moment, so Hannah Bardell can perhaps rest easier than many of her colleagues in the west of Scotland.
2017 general election result: SNP: 21,036 (40.1%) LAB: 17,158 (32.7%) CON: 12,799 (24.4%) LIB: 1,512 (2.9%)
2019 general election result: SNP: 25,617 (46.9%) CON: 12,182 (22.3%) LAB: 11,915 (21.8%) LIB: 3,457 (6.3%) GRN: 1,421 (2.6%)
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Post by batman on Apr 26, 2023 20:15:46 GMT
very good profile though I do feel that if Tam Dalyell deserves a mention so does Robin Cook. As it happens, I have met both of them.
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Post by john07 on Apr 30, 2023 1:59:25 GMT
very good profile though I do feel that if Tam Dalyell deserves a mention so does Robin Cook. As it happens, I have met both of them. Tam Dayell and his legacy was discussed in detail on the Linlithgow and Falkirk East thread. Robin Cook made his name as MP for Edinburgh Central before it was absorbed into Edinburgh North, when Cook moved to the newly created Livingston constituency, which was largely taken from the former Linlithgow seat.
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Post by batman on Apr 30, 2023 8:43:44 GMT
yes, he was MP for Edinburgh Central when I met him.
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