Wakefield

[neilm]

Apr 20, 2022 16:04:39 GMT iain said:

Apr 20, 2022 10:42:18 GMT The Bishop said:

It won't be Balls, and more to the point it shouldn't be.

EDIT: to expand on this a bit, given the stakes in this byelection Labour should play it safe. A worthy local candidate really is best. Ed B shouldn't have that much trouble finding a seat at the next GE if he genuinely wants to return to front line politics.

Someone has drunk the Kool Aid.

[neilm]

Apr 20, 2022 15:44:03 GMT timmullen1 said:

Apr 20, 2022 13:34:49 GMT neilm said:

(Referring to the Guardian article above)

I'm always interested in stories like this because of the apparent lack of action by the parents at the time. Were I this person's mother (or her partner in this case), I'd have knocked seven bells out of Khan. I find it especially odd that it didn't happen to him after the alleged incident in Pakistan.

You may have resorted to violence, good luck with the assault charge, and clearly you have no qualms about embarrassing your son in public, when, by his own admission, he only felt “uncomfortable”; in this case three adults claim to have warned Ahmed Khan about his behaviour, but, unless there were witnesses not referred to in the article, it would have been “Andrews” word against Khan’s, so the police were probably more interested in the alleged drug abuse than anything else.

I'm not sure there would be an assault charge: what would he do, complain to the police that he'd had some bones broken for noncery? Tbh I suspect they'd not even be interested in the drug use.

[timmullen1]

Apr 20, 2022 19:05:10 GMT neilm said:

Apr 20, 2022 15:44:03 GMT timmullen1 said:

You may have resorted to violence, good luck with the assault charge, and clearly you have no qualms about embarrassing your son in public, when, by his own admission, he only felt “uncomfortable”; in this case three adults claim to have warned Ahmed Khan about his behaviour, but, unless there were witnesses not referred to in the article, it would have been “Andrews” word against Khan’s, so the police were probably more interested in the alleged drug abuse than anything else.

I'm not sure there would be an assault charge: what would he do, complain to the police that he'd had some bones broken for noncery? Tbh I suspect they'd not even be interested in the drug use.

If course there’d be an assault charge, the alleged offence is barely criminal, it’s inappropriate, but, without the benefit of hindsight, would just be put down as a drunken/stoned bloke shooting his mouth off.

[aargauer]

Apr 20, 2022 12:51:11 GMT @boogieeck said:

Yes indeed, that is what he was convicted of. He was accused of a bit more. And it is at the lower end of the scale.

I have known people proudly claim more.

Such as the previous President of the United States.

[london(ex)tory]

Any more news on when the MP is actually resigning and when the election might be?

[LDCaerdydd]

Apr 21, 2022 7:20:33 GMT london(ex)tory said:

Any more news on when the MP is actually resigning and when the election might be?

No. He said he’ll (volunterally) resign, so my guess is that he’ll resign the day he’s sentenced. He could well just be hanging on now, as has been pointed out in other cases he’s currently on £225 a day which is a damn sight more than he can hope to earn once released.

[ArmchairCritic]

It seems that the Dishonourable Member can't even resign properly.

Either that or he is being deliberately difficult?

[ArmchairCritic]

Apr 20, 2022 11:32:59 GMT markgoodair said:

Apr 20, 2022 10:29:33 GMT neilm said:

What's his position on Brexit got to do with it?

His entire 2019 campaign was based on "getting Brexit done.".

So nothing then, you thick twat

[timmullen1]

Apr 21, 2022 10:50:47 GMT ArmchairCritic said:

Apr 20, 2022 11:32:59 GMT markgoodair said:

His entire 2019 campaign was based on "getting Brexit done.".

So nothing then, you thick twat

Perhaps if you read the original post, applied Key Stage 1 levels of comprehension, he might then stop posting such illiterate c**p.

[The Bishop]

I thought that the sentencing of Khan was due "this week"? Well, its now Thursday.....

[timmullen1]

We have a candidate!

[ArmchairCritic]

Apr 21, 2022 12:03:16 GMT The Bishop said:

I thought that the sentencing of Khan was due "this week"? Well, its now Thursday.....

News to me.

I never heard of a date being given.

He continues to insist that his appeal will go ahead....so I hear. I would bet that this will be around admission in evidence of the Peshwar incident having a prejudicial effect of the jury which outweighed the probative value.

But I'd be surprised if it got anywhere, assuming the judge directed the jury properly on the point.

I reckon he'll bee down for a sizeable bowl of porridge

[timmullen1]

Apr 21, 2022 12:14:24 GMT ArmchairCritic said:

Apr 21, 2022 12:03:16 GMT The Bishop said:

I thought that the sentencing of Khan was due "this week"? Well, its now Thursday.....

News to me.

I never heard of a date being given.

He continues to insist that his appeal will go ahead....so I hear. I would bet that this will be around admission in evidence of the Peshwar incident having a prejudicial effect of the jury which outweighed the probative value.

But I'd be surprised if it got anywhere, assuming the judge directed the jury properly on the point.

I reckon he'll bee down for a sizeable bowl of porridge

The reports on the day of the verdict all say sentencing will be at “a date to be fixed”, I can’t find any reference anywhere to it being this week.

[timmullen1]

Worth following the thread:

[ArmchairCritic]

Don't be expecting a quick announcement of the date.

The original plan was the 26th May but I think you can safely forget that short of a miracle....which isn't going to happen

[Tony Otim]

He's not going to do an O'Mara, is he?

[iainbhx]

Apr 21, 2022 20:37:31 GMT Tony Otim said:

He's not going to do an O'Mara, is he?

No, because he's going to face a recall petition at some point.

He might, however, do a Webbe for as long as possible.

[ArmchairCritic]

Apr 21, 2022 21:06:48 GMT iainbhx said:

Apr 21, 2022 20:37:31 GMT Tony Otim said:

He's not going to do an O'Mara, is he?

No, because he's going to face a recall petition at some point.

He might, however, do a Webbe for as long as possible.

Well, ultimately, yes. But he could drag it out.

My source tells me that he is simply after keeping the 4 grand a month rolling in

[right]

Apr 20, 2022 10:42:18 GMT The Bishop said:

It won't be Balls, and more to the point it shouldn't be.

EDIT: to expand on this a bit, given the stakes in this byelection Labour should play it safe. A worthy local candidate really is best. Ed B shouldn't have that much trouble finding a seat at the next GE if he genuinely wants to return to front line politics.

Balls strikes me as mad for Labour because not only would he as an outsider with a history of being intensely disliked (fairly or unfairly) mean that Labour would be more likely to lose, but if by some miracle the Tories held Wakefield against a local Labour councillor LOTO wouldn't be blamed for that - they would be blamed if they parachuted in Balls.

Also wouldn't Balls be in a bit of an, erm, hurry if he got back?  Perhaps I'm remembering too much of Portillo's come back, but how on earth could Starmer trust him if he was back on the front benck?

[The Bishop]

Agree with all that, but some (hopefully not enough) in Labour HQ seem to think that is all trumped by his having been on a TV show.