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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 3:19:23 GMT
Could Bailey have done better than Victoria Borwick and Felicity Buchan in the seat, or worse?
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Post by bjornhattan on Mar 14, 2022 9:11:11 GMT
The middle name of the MP for West Bromwich West would be used much more.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 14, 2022 10:19:54 GMT
He actually did stand for Hammersmith in 2010, and quite a few thought he was going to win.
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Post by elinorhelyn on Mar 14, 2022 10:52:26 GMT
He actually did stand for Hammersmith in 2010, and quite a few thought he was going to win. Wonder why Hammersmith was lost when nearby EC&A was won off Labour in 2010. Maybe cos EC&A is more suburban than Hammersmith, though that obviously doesn't matther these days considering how that constituency votes these days. |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Mar 14, 2022 13:20:41 GMT
Greg Hands would've had the best chance of winning the new Hammersmith in 2010, but it's understandable why he chose to go with the other part of his electorate.
Bailey did unexpectedly well as a Mayoral candidate, so it's not inconceivable that he'd have found an extra 20-odd votes in Kensington and held the seat in 2017, especially having built up some incumbency brownie points by then.
Borwick really wasn't the best fit for the seat. Whatever one thinks of 'Kensington' as a concept, the actual seat is more strongly influenced by its Northern half because the bit full of mansions doesn't necessarily equate to a large number of permanently-resident registered electors.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 14, 2022 18:28:16 GMT
He actually did stand for Hammersmith in 2010, and quite a few thought he was going to win. Wonder why Hammersmith was lost when nearby EC&A was won off Labour in 2010. Maybe cos EC&A is more suburban than Hammersmith, though that obviously doesn't matther these days considering how that constituency votes these days. EC/A was actually considered a safeish Tory prospect then. |
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Post by jakegb on Mar 14, 2022 19:38:28 GMT
The fight between Bailey and Dent Coad (known for her gracious remarks + tact/diplomacy) would have been interesting, especially in light of her controversial comments directed at Bailey during her short tenure as MP.
Her ungracious behaviour following her defeat (e.g. refusing to shake hand with Buchanan) in 2019 was one of my key memories from that election night. It showed her in a very bad light.
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Post by elinorhelyn on Mar 14, 2022 19:47:13 GMT
Wonder why Hammersmith was lost when nearby EC&A was won off Labour in 2010. Maybe cos EC&A is more suburban than Hammersmith, though that obviously doesn't matther these days considering how that constituency votes these days. EC/A was actually considered a safeish Tory prospect then. It was on new boundries and notionally Labour but only marginally so |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 15, 2022 13:40:33 GMT
That slightly surprises me tbh, though it was certainly considered fairly safe for the Tories after the 2010 result. Especially given the overall outcome, it was quite possibly their most unexpected loss of the 2015 election (though I suppose Ilford North is also up there)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 15, 2022 13:49:53 GMT
The explanation is probably in the very large Lib Dem vote in Ealing Central and Acton. In 2010 they were happy to vote Lib Dem and probably didn't much care which of Conservative or Labour won. By 2015 they were no longer willing to vote Lib Dem and either voted Conservative to keep the current MP, or Labour to get rid of her - with a majority being anti-Tory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 16:51:07 GMT
Anyone know how the current Kensington would have voted from 1997 to 2005?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 15, 2022 17:46:49 GMT
Anyone know how the current Kensington would have voted from 1997 to 2005? I did some calculations around the time it was created and IIRC reckoned narrowly Labour in 1997 and narrowly Conservative in 2001 but close in either event (and complicated by different ward boundaries). The 2005 notional result is of course a matter of public record. |
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Post by neilm on Mar 17, 2022 13:32:14 GMT
The middle name of the MP for West Bromwich West would be used much more. My gosh, he's a full ten years younger than me. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 17, 2022 17:33:48 GMT
The middle name of the MP for West Bromwich West would be used much more. My gosh, he's a full ten years younger than me. Lord Kennedy of Southwark is precisely 10 years older than me. |
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Post by neilm on Mar 17, 2022 20:03:58 GMT
My gosh, he's a full ten years younger than me. Lord Kennedy of Southwark is precisely 10 years older than me. One half of one of the few couples holding peerages in their own right. |
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