Indy ref 1

[No Offence Alan]

Sept 22, 2021 20:04:00 GMT @boogieeck said:

Do we seriously not have a thread on this?

So, Yes wins by .....enough. David Cameron obvz resigns. Who replaces him?

A hugely popular Alex Salmond is now negotiating his nation's Independence with a lame-duck Tory PM. Polls suggest the disgraced Tories face wipe out in England. Ed Milliband looks to be nailed on to enter No10.

But ......

within two years, England will revert to type, with no Scots left-wing vote to restrain them. The Tory party will be led from the Eurosceptic right by .....David Davies?......and will romp to power within five. Brexit is nailed on as certain. Maybe 2018, maybe as late as 2020.

Scotland by now will be sitting between Saudi and Senegal in the UN, our FM will not be ousted nor outed as a sex pest. Worth noting that he, and this is a matter of legal record, was never a rapist. But if you have ever worked with sex offenders as I have, you know that their offending increases until they are caught. His would have. Public focus would be on finances ravaged by oil at $40 a barrel, and a hard border with the hard-right rUK. But Twitter is less compliant than BBC Scotland, and by now I would know that Salmond was a rapist. But of course I would have been forced from public life by now or more likely, would never have re-entered it as my ward would elect two SNP plus Wendy and a pro-indy Lib Dem who was not English.

The SNHS is on its knees then CoViD comes along. The border is closed and we have no bog roll and they have no haggis. That will teach the English bastards

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There would be no rUKexit.
The Glasgow Fair Friday Agreement signed between Scotland and Milliband-led rUK would not allow any border.

[Deleted]

2014: Scotland jubilantly celebrates its independence

2015: A certain *type* of English person goes "oh I'll have some of that
GE 2015: UKIP's 15% is closer to 25-30 allowing them to win 30-50 seats across the east and North East of England, and more importantly hands several marginal seats to Labour. Either a) Labour have a parliamentary majority on a small vote share or b) UKIP have the balance of power

Later 2015 a:Brexit does not happen and there is no referendum. Cameron is replaced by some right-wing nutcase; Miliband is left alone as, after all he won. UKIP continue to poll at around 15-20% without threatening to challenge for power and a more moderate Miliband gets a second term against a right-wing Tory

Later 2015 b: UKIP have to decide whether to force the Tories to give them a referendum, which is what they want BUT will kill them off and annoy a large chunk of their base who would be more comfortable with Labour's economic policy, or pursue a coalition with Labour which would give them some policy collections and let them snipe from s position of power and keep them alive indefinitely BUT would deny them their EU referendum, would be harder to make work and would be against the instincts of the party leadership

[LDCaerdydd]

Cameron resigns in 2014 and is replaced by William Hauge as PM, the Conservatives pick a right winger in their 2015 leadership contest either Fox or Davis. The modernisation of the Conservative party is considered dead and many moderates stand down as MPs in 2015.

The 2015 election is held in England, Wales and NI. Sitting Scottish MPs are given an extension to their service until Scottish independence in Nov 2016, but are bared from voting on most issues.

Of the 591 seats in England and Wales the Conservatives win 290-300, UKIPs vote increases further still but they only win 4-5 seats (inc Farage) along with the DUPs 8 in Northern Ireland the Conservatives cling on and hold a Brexit referendum in 2017 where Wales and England vote leave, NI votes remain and we’re dumped in the shit we’re currently in.

Salmon resigns as FM in 2018 having delivered independence but with a cloud of sexual harassment allegations over him.

No 2017 or 2019 GE, Brexit and our exit method is set to become the defining issue of the 2020 general with Cons, Lab and UKIP all proposing differing exit methods. The May 2020 election is delayed until Sept 2020 due to covid and takes place in an all postal vote.

[peterl]

Well we all know that when there is a referendum, people can not understand the question properly and need to be given a second go. So after a sustained campaign, a second referendum would result in a no vote, the SNP would all but disappear and life would return to normal. Or something like that.