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Post by jollyroger93 on Sept 17, 2021 7:32:52 GMT
Russians start voting today in there Duma election. Carry’s in for 2 days with over 110 million people registered to vote.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 17, 2021 10:20:16 GMT
In the parlance of another place, this is an "electoral type event".
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 17, 2021 15:10:53 GMT
In the parlance of another place, this is an "electoral type event". As in Turkey it's getting dangerous for the governing party now. What raises the question: To what extent can&will they rig it? Or will they even risk a coup? |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 17, 2021 20:42:04 GMT
In the parlance of another place, this is an "electoral type event". As in Turkey it's getting dangerous for the governing party now. What raises the question: To what extent can&will they rig it? Or will they even risk a coup? In Turkey, when they try to rig things, as when they tried to overturn the election in Istanbul, the people can still win. Not so sure when that will again be true in Russia. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 18, 2021 8:21:05 GMT
As in Turkey it's getting dangerous for the governing party now. What raises the question: To what extent can&will they rig it? Or will they even risk a coup? In Turkey, when they try to rig things, as when they tried to overturn the election in Istanbul, the people can still win. Not so sure when that will again be true in Russia. They have online voting in Russia now, so no. If they have a few losses, I predict they'll make all voting online for the next Presidential election. If that happens, we won't even know what fraud is occurring because you can't independently check. That'll be the case till Putin dies. After him, Russia will be lucky to survive intact when the competition to succeed him begins. |
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Sept 18, 2021 8:38:51 GMT
Russia will split in what way and why?
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 18, 2021 8:42:26 GMT
Russia will split in what way and why? Yes, a bit sceptical about this. Some predicted it after the dissolution of the USSR but Russia stayed in one piece fairly comfortably despite all the traumas. |
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Post by European Lefty on Sept 18, 2021 9:38:26 GMT
I suppose it's possible that it might shed bits and pieces with actually undergoing a full-blown split
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 18, 2021 9:40:10 GMT
I suppose it's possible that it might shed bits and pieces with actually undergoing a full-blown split I agree, surely the Dagestanis and Chechens must welcome the idea of a messy succession crisis for Putin. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 18, 2021 14:05:05 GMT
I suppose it's possible that it might shed bits and pieces with actually undergoing a full-blown split I agree, surely the Dagestanis and Chechens must welcome the idea of a messy succession crisis for Putin. Dagestan is such a MeltingPot (and Islamism not strong enough to extinct all ethnic differences), that i would claim the opposite. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 18, 2021 14:17:06 GMT
Russia will split in what way and why? Yes, a bit sceptical about this. Some predicted it after the dissolution of the USSR but Russia stayed in one piece fairly comfortably despite all the traumas. It stayed together through brute force. If Chechnya had managed to get its proper independence, the rest of the Circassian and other Muslim states would've went. Then the Tartars. You've also got to bear in mind all the Chinese immigration into Siberia. Do you think the CCP would let the opportunity to grab resource rich regions in Siberia go to waste were Russian central authority to collapse? Furthermore, we've got to bear in mind that, despite everything, there was genuine optimism after the collapse of the CPSU. It seems to me that contemporary Russia is hollowed out and nihilistic. |
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Sept 18, 2021 14:43:59 GMT
Russia survived revolution intact after civil war, I would expect it to easily survive a tradition from Putinism.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 18, 2021 15:06:54 GMT
Russia survived revolution intact after civil war, I would expect it to easily survive a tradition from Putinism. Post-Revolution Russia was smaller than pre-Revolution Russia by approximately one Finland. So technically it wasn't quite intact.  |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 18, 2021 15:57:45 GMT
Russia survived revolution intact after civil war, I would expect it to easily survive a tradition from Putinism. Post-Revolution Russia was smaller than pre-Revolution Russia by approximately one Finland. So technically it wasn't quite intact. Also a Latvia, an Estonia, a Lithuania and most of a Poland. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 19, 2021 5:18:13 GMT
Post-Revolution Russia was smaller than pre-Revolution Russia by approximately one Finland. So technically it wasn't quite intact. Also a Latvia, an Estonia, a Lithuania and most of a Poland. There also more breakaways that they managed to retake during said post-revolutionary upheaval. States in the Caucasus, Central Asia and Ukraine for instance. |
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Post by seanryanj on Sept 19, 2021 5:41:58 GMT
So awful! That people can't decide on who they want to represent them...everyone who has freedom to vote, freedom to express, freedom to be ..be grateful
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 19, 2021 11:42:23 GMT
Also a Latvia, an Estonia, a Lithuania and most of a Poland. There also more breakaways that they managed to retake during said post-revolutionary upheaval. States in the Caucasus, Central Asia and Ukraine for instance. And even (briefly) Belorussia - amazingly, the exile government of that short lived state is still going. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 19, 2021 11:50:42 GMT
There also more breakaways that they managed to retake during said post-revolutionary upheaval. States in the Caucasus, Central Asia and Ukraine for instance. And even (briefly) Belorussia - amazingly, the exile government of that short lived state is still going. where? |
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Post by Toylyyev on Sept 19, 2021 12:28:42 GMT
And even (briefly) Belorussia - amazingly, the exile government of that short lived state is still going. where? Couldn't resist  |
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 19, 2021 21:27:34 GMT
I agree, surely the Dagestanis and Chechens must welcome the idea of a messy succession crisis for Putin. Dagestan is such a MeltingPot (and Islamism not strong enough to extinct all ethnic differences), that i would claim the opposite. Maybe, however the Chechens might annex it in the event of independence, especially if the Russian Army has split or is quelling unrest elsewhere? |
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