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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 23, 2016 17:56:45 GMT
It is reported that Clinton's lead in the popular vote has just reached 2 million. Of course this "doesn't matter", but maybe in a sense it does? It does at least mean the nationwide opinion polls showing her ahead weren't actually wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 19:30:44 GMT
Seems like at least one American ally is unequivocally pro-Trump. Erdogan criticizes anti-Trump protestors for "disrespecting democracy". “First and foremost, those who believe in the ballot need to have respect for the results". “If they don't, then this means they don't understand democracy, they can't tolerate it and they don't have respect for it.” www.yenisafak.com/en/news/anti-trump-protests-disrespect-to-democracy-erdogan-2568167I am not surprised that Recep Tayyip Erdogan sees Donald Trump as a kindred spirit. Though if they become instant bosom buddies it might have interesting implications for the war against ISIS in northern/eastern Syria given the US reliance on the PKK affiliated YPG for ground operations. |
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Post by mondialito on Nov 23, 2016 19:38:35 GMT
It is possible to call out the growing trend of suggesting only white men can be working class without being ridiculous about it.
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Post by mondialito on Nov 23, 2016 19:39:52 GMT
The 'lets call everyone we don't like a racist/fascist/the new Hitler' strategy has moved completely beyond parody It is possible to call out the growing trend of suggesting only white men can be working class without being ridiculous about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 19:43:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 19:46:22 GMT
Seems like at least one American ally is unequivocally pro-Trump. Erdogan criticizes anti-Trump protestors for "disrespecting democracy". “First and foremost, those who believe in the ballot need to have respect for the results". “If they don't, then this means they don't understand democracy, they can't tolerate it and they don't have respect for it.” www.yenisafak.com/en/news/anti-trump-protests-disrespect-to-democracy-erdogan-2568167I am not surprised that Recep Tayyip Erdogan sees Donald Trump as a kindred spirit. Erdogan is also obsessed by the Pennsylvania based former ally turned nemesis Fetullah Gulen; who along with the CIA, Europe, the HDP, PKK and the rest were behind the worlds worst attempted "coup". Apparently. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 23:32:16 GMT
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Post by Adrian on Nov 23, 2016 23:32:52 GMT
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Post by mboy on Nov 23, 2016 23:45:42 GMT
Haley has an accounting degree from Clemson and zero policy experience. She will be the most unqualified American UN ambassador ever. Haley is an ethnic minority woman, so Trump's team know full well that criticism of her for things like that can be considered sexist racism under the Left's "diversity" rules. While she herself as an ethnic minority woman "cannot be racist or sexist" (cf Bahar Mustafa). It's a smart choice that plays to the Left's weaknesses. Turns out diplomats are actually quite pleased with the appointment, on the grounds that she isn't a nutter: (BBC) |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 24, 2016 0:21:35 GMT
The back tracking on a special prosecutor for Hillary, Haley as UN ambassador and Devos for Education are just the first of many "betrayals" that the Breitbart crowd will be on the end of. I am looking forward to the moment when they realise that Trump will not be building that "big, beautiful wall" and it dawns on these pathetic freaks that they have been played for fools. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 24, 2016 1:14:11 GMT
An appalling attempt from Stein to fleece naive people out of their money. It would have lowered my opinion of this dreadful women were it not for the fact that I already hold her in complete and utter contempt. |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 24, 2016 1:25:03 GMT
The back tracking on a special prosecutor for Hillary, Haley as UN ambassador and Devos for Education are just the first of many "betrayals" that the Breitbart crowd will be on the end of. I am looking forward to the moment when they realise that Trump will not be building that "big, beautiful wall" and it dawns on these pathetic freaks that they have been played for fools. Do you think he's going to make any effort at all to try and keep them - or some of them - on side? |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 24, 2016 1:35:09 GMT
The back tracking on a special prosecutor for Hillary, Haley as UN ambassador and Devos for Education are just the first of many "betrayals" that the Breitbart crowd will be on the end of. I am looking forward to the moment when they realise that Trump will not be building that "big, beautiful wall" and it dawns on these pathetic freaks that they have been played for fools. Do you think he's going to make any effort at all to try and keep them - or some of them - on side? He might do so for now but when it comes down to it he will put his own interests first. For all his flaws and for as much as he might sully the office of President with his business dealings he does have a certain sense of history about him. He won't want to be remembered as the champion of a bunch of dimwitted racist losers. |
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Post by mboy on Nov 24, 2016 8:41:32 GMT
I seen to remember that when Trump said the election might be stolen, the Left accused him of undermining democracy itself. How quickly everything changed... |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 24, 2016 10:55:24 GMT
The amount now appears to have gone up to $4.5 million. What a surprise. A fool and his money and all that... A fool and her money. or rather other people's money.. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 24, 2016 13:15:20 GMT
The back tracking on a special prosecutor for Hillary, Haley as UN ambassador and Devos for Education are just the first of many "betrayals" that the Breitbart crowd will be on the end of. I am looking forward to the moment when they realise that Trump will not be building that "big, beautiful wall" and it dawns on these pathetic freaks that they have been played for fools. I suppose following the utter humiliation of #NeverTrump and the 'true conservatives' (heh), Trump's election win, the appointments of Bannon and Sessions, and the prospect of a more populist and nationalist GOP going forward, that really is the best you can hope for. We shall see of course, but perhaps a reminder about such predictions is order for one of our leading purveyors of rubbish predictions about Trump. #NeverTrump was a principled stance and so Trump's election is not a humiliation for those who took such a stance. Yes the GOP is going to become more populist and nationalist for the next few years and that is a tragedy for America but ironically it will be most tragic for those states that swung sharply to Trump. America's great strengths have always been its optimism and confidence, its willingness to embrace the challenges of a changing world. Your populism is nothing but a whine about how unfair the modern world is, about how America deserves the economic conditions of yesterday to last indefinitely. You foolishly believe that the forces of globalisation can be turned back by a strongman president and protectionist trade policies when all that it will do is economically harm America more and more. Like those on the Utopian left you are indulging in fantasies rather than engaging with harsh realities. Maybe you don't care, perhaps you and your ilk will be happy as long as white people can be convinced to vote on racial lines and blame somebody else for all the faults of the nation. It is a pathetic and squalid vision that betrays America's wonderful history but then blaming others for failure is so much easier than actually working to succeed. |
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