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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 10:48:34 GMT
It certainly hasn't been a safe space for Republican presidents The play being performed when Lincoln was shot was "Our American Cousin" by the English dramatist and journalist Tom Taylor, who was editor of "Punch" at one point (young posters ask your parents). His other plays included one called "The Contested Election", which is an interesting comedic window on how elections were fought at this point in British history. Robert Todd Lincoln as well as his obvious links to the assassination you mention was also present at the assassination of both Presidents Garfield and Mckinley.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 20, 2016 12:03:45 GMT
So this administration is looking like the most corrupt & self serving since Grant before it's even started I think that is rather generous to Harding, tbh. Grant's was worse than Harding's.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 12:09:51 GMT
I think that is rather generous to Harding, tbh. Grant's was worse than Harding's. Yes, but Harding's was later than Grant's, so Trump's is going to be the worst since Harding.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 20, 2016 12:17:37 GMT
Grant's was worse than Harding's. Yes, but Harding's was later than Grant's, so Trump's is going to be the worst since Harding. No, I'm thinking Trump's is going to be worse than Harding's so indeed the worst since Grant's. The sheer volume of shady characters, including Trump himself of course, is going to make this a chicken shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 12:32:32 GMT
Yes, but Harding's was later than Grant's, so Trump's is going to be the worst since Harding. No, I'm thinking Trump's is going to be worse than Harding's so indeed the worst since Grant's. The sheer volume of shady characters, including Trump himself of course, is going to make this a chicken shoot. Maybe, but the above was what The Bishop was alleging, so his comment "I think that is rather generous to Harding, tbh" made sense.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 20, 2016 13:04:36 GMT
Yes, but Harding's was later than Grant's, so Trump's is going to be the worst since Harding. No, I'm thinking Trump's is going to be worse than Harding's so indeed the worst since Grant's. The sheer volume of shady characters, including Trump himself of course, is going to make this a chicken shoot. What does your last sentence mean? How does a 'chicken shoot' differ from the more popular 'turkey shoot' or the once popular 'shooting fish in a barrel'? How does a dubious new administration of characters you strongly dislike lead of itself to any sort of shoot? By which I understand you to mean it will be easy to pick them off and destroy? You have been singularly poor at this contest so far!
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Post by Sharon on Nov 20, 2016 16:33:37 GMT
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Post by Sharon on Nov 20, 2016 16:39:08 GMT
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Post by Sharon on Nov 20, 2016 17:57:29 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 20, 2016 18:20:43 GMT
The play being performed when Lincoln was shot was "Our American Cousin" by the English dramatist and journalist Tom Taylor, who was editor of "Punch" at one point (young posters ask your parents). His other plays included one called "The Contested Election", which is an interesting comedic window on how elections were fought at this point in British history. Robert Todd Lincoln as well as his obvious links to the assassination you mention was also present at the assassination of both Presidents Garfield and Mckinley. you have to wonder why he kept getting invited to come along for the ride given his record... "Robert, gee well it's nice of you to offer, but we're sort of overbooked at the moment. Maybe next year for Thanksgiving?"
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 20, 2016 18:43:10 GMT
Robert Todd Lincoln as well as his obvious links to the assassination you mention was also present at the assassination of both Presidents Garfield and Mckinley. you have to wonder why he kept getting invited to come along for the ride given his record... "Robert, gee well it's nice of you to offer, but we're sort of overbooked at the moment. Maybe next year for Thanksgiving?" It is said he later refused Presidential invitations because of the odd coincidence. (He lived until 1926)
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 20, 2016 18:52:13 GMT
No, I'm thinking Trump's is going to be worse than Harding's so indeed the worst since Grant's. The sheer volume of shady characters, including Trump himself of course, is going to make this a chicken shoot. What does your last sentence mean? How does a 'chicken shoot' differ from the more popular 'turkey shoot' or the once popular 'shooting fish in a barrel'? How does a dubious new administration of characters you strongly dislike lead of itself to any sort of shoot? By which I understand you to mean it will be easy to pick them off and destroy? You have been singularly poor at this contest so far! They will be hoisted by the own petards. Is that clear enough for you?
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 20, 2016 20:15:21 GMT
What does your last sentence mean? How does a 'chicken shoot' differ from the more popular 'turkey shoot' or the once popular 'shooting fish in a barrel'? How does a dubious new administration of characters you strongly dislike lead of itself to any sort of shoot? By which I understand you to mean it will be easy to pick them off and destroy? You have been singularly poor at this contest so far! They will be hoisted by the own petards. Is that clear enough for you? A rather heavy siege engine of a metaphor, but yes, I understand. I wonder if it is true? That original metaphor usually means that the contest will be amazingly one-sided to the point of unfairness, and I wondered if you had really meant that? I doubt it! And I doubt it will of necessity be that easy? We shall see.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 21, 2016 1:42:51 GMT
They will be hoisted by the own petards. Is that clear enough for you? A rather heavy siege engine of a metaphor, but yes, I understand. I wonder if it is true? That original metaphor usually means that the contest will be amazingly one-sided to the point of unfairness, and I wondered if you had really meant that? I doubt it! And I doubt it will of necessity be that easy? We shall see. It will all happen, whichever metaphor you wish to facilitate what will happen. I could of course be wrong (i.e. That from now until then end of time that corruption etc doesn't come to light involving either Trump or any of his appointees) but I can't say I'm holding my breath...
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 21, 2016 1:51:00 GMT
I think what Khunanup means by this is that he's unhappy that Trump is picking people who supported him and his agenda during the election. Instead he thinks that Trump should pick a range of people from across the party including many who opposed him and his agenda throughout the election and who can be expected to frustrate that agenda if put into office. Supposedly for the sake of unifying the whole party and country Of course if it had been the other way around and someone like Jeb Bush had won the election then Khunanup wouldn't be suggesting hiring anyone who had been supporting Trump and his policies. Instead he would suggest exiling them from government entirely. I suspect in that case 'party unity' would not be so much of a priority. Well quite. You have put into words what we all know. It's been incredible to watch people who were bitterly opposed to Trump now demand (heh) that they be listened to and included. By all means reach out to those who can be brought on board, and get a few inside the tent who would do more damage were they outside it, but what possible benefit is there in trying to placate those who oppose everything you stand for, who wish to destroy you in fact. They should receive precisely the same treatment that people with Trump's populist/nationalist agenda would have received if a 'mainstream' Republican had won. Trump is a deeply troubled sociopath. It is no surprise he is making these choices, that of a deeply troubled sociopath, but that those choices are being made are highly likely to be of benefit to only himself and a very few like minded individuals and somewhat damaging to international relations as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 6:08:21 GMT
No sign of draining the swamp. Indeed cronyism rules. With added white power.
"Those fucking bums won their court case" "Who?" "The fucking Nazi party, thats who" "Illinios Nazi's..."...
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Post by john07 on Nov 21, 2016 10:36:04 GMT
Trump is a deeply troubled sociopath. It is no surprise he is making these choices, that of a deeply troubled sociopath, but that those choices are being made are highly likely to be of benefit to only himself and a very few like minded individuals and somewhat damaging to international relations as a whole. I didn't know you were a psychologist/psychiatrist. And you treated Trump, too. You've kept that under your hat! I suppose it would be a breach of professional ethics to reveal the contents of those sessions at present, but when the inevitable happens - he's 70 after all, and the presidency is a stressful job - a little book could set you up very nicely. I, like many, can spot a nutter and don't need psychiatric training to do that. Prescribing 'treatment' is another matter and that certainly requires training.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 21, 2016 12:02:26 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 21, 2016 12:40:47 GMT
The Illinois Nazis have not had much luck since the Blues Brothers, have they?
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