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Post by Georg Ebner on May 10, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
The regional variations are striking. In the 8 councils in the Midlands and North* the Conservatives were up 35, Labour down 37, Lib Dems down 4, Green up 4.. The only county where the Conservatives were not up in seats was Lincolnshire In the remaining (13) counties in Southern England, the Conservatives were down 56, Labour down 2, Lib Dems up 22, Greens up 25. The only counties where the Conservatives were up in seats here were Norfolk and Suffolk EDIT: New version (i forgot Plymouth - i am sorry):
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 10, 2021 16:42:14 GMT
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Post by mrpastelito on May 10, 2021 16:49:26 GMT
Cornwall really ruined it for the Lib Dems, didn't it. Hard to see a way back for them in their current 'woke globalists' incarnation.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 10, 2021 17:14:44 GMT
Cornwall really ruined it for the Lib Dems, didn't it. Hard to see a way back for them in their current 'woke globalists' incarnation. You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency.
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 10, 2021 17:27:17 GMT
Cornwall really ruined it for the Lib Dems, didn't it. Hard to see a way back for them in their current 'woke globalists' incarnation. You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency. Yes, Your new coalition is also coherent. But will You ever be able to conquer "Wessex" (=HomeCounties west of GL) without the rightliberal yuppies You clearly don't want?
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 10, 2021 17:33:28 GMT
You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency. Yes, Your new coalition is also coherent. But will You ever be able to conquer "Wessex" (=HomeCounties west of GL) without the rightliberal yuppies You clearly don't want? Dunno, Georg. Frankly we need to find a core vote and then bolt on local allies to that, we're starting from the floor here.
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Post by Robert Waller on May 10, 2021 18:28:22 GMT
I've gradually started to update the tables. Interesting but not very surprising patterns from the counties so far reported. Conservatives are down a small amount net but Labour by much more (which considering the last time these seats were contested is very poor for them). Good increases for the Greens and Independents/Residents, modest net gains by the Lib Dems. The modest net change in the number of Tory seats masks significant regional variations. They have gained a large number of seats in Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire (mostly at Labour's expense) while losing ground in Devon, East Sussex, Essex, Cambridgeshire and most markedly in Surrey Terrific work from Pete Whitehead! ... I have been searching for an easy way to see combined results as in his table (towards bottom page 2 above), but it seems that even the broadsheet newspapers no longer have those spreads of all council results I used to look forward to and keep .... One addition to the above from me: I haven't yet gone through all the detailed results but I did also note how poorly the Conservatives did this time in West Sussex.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 10, 2021 18:40:40 GMT
I've gradually started to update the tables. Interesting but not very surprising patterns from the counties so far reported. Conservatives are down a small amount net but Labour by much more (which considering the last time these seats were contested is very poor for them). Good increases for the Greens and Independents/Residents, modest net gains by the Lib Dems. The modest net change in the number of Tory seats masks significant regional variations. They have gained a large number of seats in Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire (mostly at Labour's expense) while losing ground in Devon, East Sussex, Essex, Cambridgeshire and most markedly in Surrey Terrific work from Pete Whitehead! ... I have been searching for an easy way to see combined results as in his table (towards bottom page 2 above), but it seems that even the broadsheet newspapers no longer have those spreads of all council results I used to look forward to and keep .... One addition to the above from me: I haven't yet gone through all the detailed results but I did also note how poorly the Conservatives did this time in West Sussex. Thank you Robert. West Sussex hadn't declared at the time I made the comments you quoted but I think most (by no means all) of the Conservative decline in West Sussex is down to Worthing. The BBC are showing various lists of seat losses and gains but I'm not sure how they're arrived at. As I say, the totals are so complicated by the abolition of some councils from previously, the creation of new ones and the reduction of seats in some others. Breaking them down into discreet segments in this way seems the best way of making direct comparisons. For the 2016 councils I am now waiting for a single seat in Winchester to be able to update the totals..
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Post by mrpastelito on May 10, 2021 18:52:56 GMT
Cornwall really ruined it for the Lib Dems, didn't it. Hard to see a way back for them in their current 'woke globalists' incarnation. You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency.
Blimey. LD stats without Cornwall: +32 councillors. With Cornwall: +7. That's all I was getting at.
Sacrificing Cornwall for richer pastures further east is a legitimate decision, all I'm saying is you'll probably find it hard to regain lost ground in Cornwall.
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Post by The Bishop on May 10, 2021 19:13:28 GMT
Its fair comment to say the LibDems are now a more coherent party, but this has been at the price of becoming a rather smaller one.
The upside to them is that their new "core" constituency is growing, and likely to continue doing so.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 10, 2021 19:47:52 GMT
You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency.
Blimey. LD stats without Cornwall: +32 councillors. With Cornwall: +7. That's all I was getting at.
Sacrificing Cornwall for richer pastures further east is a legitimate decision, all I'm saying is you'll probably find it hard to regain lost ground in Cornwall.
Fair enough, I misunderstood you. I agree on the last point. But in national narrative +7 and +32 aren't significantly different in context of Lab down a couple of hundred and Tories up a couple of hundred - they both come out as "LDs made modest gains." Cornwall is going to be interesting because there is a normal rural conservative electorate plus a distinctive anti-establishment electorate. We used to corner the latter, they have to go somewhere. Might be that Labour, Greens or (local elections anyway) MK do better than us, maybe split three ways (four if you count us.) I dunno.
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 10, 2021 20:31:36 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 10, 2021 20:35:53 GMT
how poorly the Conservatives did this time in West Sussex. I think most (by no means all) of the Conservative decline in West Sussex is down to Worthing. District:
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 11, 2021 15:21:10 GMT
Met Boroughs | 2016 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | 2021 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | Change Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Barnsley | 1 | 18 | | | | 2 | 21 | 1 | 17 | 3 | | | | 21 | 0 | -1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | -2 | Bolton | 5 | 12 | 1 | | | 2 | 20 | 9 | 7 | 1 | | | 3 | 20 | +4 | -5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | +1 | Bradford | 5 | 15 | 4 | 5 | 1 | | 30 | 8 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 2 | | 30 | +3 | 0 | -1 | -3 | +1 | 0 | Bury | 6 | 10 | 1 | | | | 17 | 6 | 8 | 1 | | | 2 | 17 | 0 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | Calderdale | 6 | 8 | 3 | | | | 17 | 7 | 8 | 2 | | | | 17 | +1 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Coventry | 5 | 13 | | | | | 18 | 6 | 12 | | | | | 18 | +1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Dudley | 9 | 14 | | | | 1 | 24 | 21 | 3 | | | | | 24 | +12 | -11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | Gateshead | | 17 | 5 | | | | 22 | | 17 | 5 | | | | 22 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Kirklees | 6 | 12 | 3 | 1 | 1 | | 23 | 8 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 23 | +2 | 0 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Knowsley + | | 14 | 1 | | | | 15 | | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 15 | 0 | -2 | 0 | +1 | +1 | 0 | Leeds | 6 | 21 | 3 | | 1 | 2 | 33 | 9 | 18 | 2 | | 1 | 3 | 33 | +3 | -3 | -1 | 0 | 0 | +1 | Liverpool | | 25 | 3 | | 1 | 1 | 30 | | 22 | 6 | | 1 | 1 | 30 | 0 | -3 | +3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Manchester | | 31 | 1 | | | | 32 | | 31 | | | 1 | | 32 | 0 | 0 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Newcastle upon Tyne | | 18 | 7 | 1 | | | 26 | | 17 | 6 | 1 | | 2 | 26 | 0 | -1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | +2 | North Tyneside | 2 | 17 | 1 | | | | 20 | 4 | 16 | | | | | 20 | +2 | -1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Oldham | 1 | 15 | 3 | 1 | | | 20 | 5 | 9 | 3 | 1 | | 2 | 20 | +4 | -6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | +2 | Rochdale | 3 | 16 | 1 | | | | 20 | 3 | 16 | 1 | | | | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Rotherham * | | 48 | | 1 | | 14 | 63 | 20 | 32 | 3 | 1 | | 3 | 59 | +20 | -16 | +3 | 0 | 0 | -11 | St Helens | 1 | 14 | 1 | | | | 16 | 1 | 11 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | 16 | 0 | -3 | 0 | +2 | +1 | 0 | Salford * | 8 | 51 | | 1 | | | 60 | 7 | 52 | 1 | | | | 60 | -1 | 1 | 1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Sandwell | | 24 | | | | | 24 | 7 | 17 | | | | | 24 | +7 | -7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Sefton | 1 | 11 | 7 | 2 | | 1 | 22 | 3 | 17 | 2 | | | | 22 | +2 | +6 | -5 | -2 | 0 | -1 | Sheffield + | | 20 | 6 | | 1 | 1 | 28 | 1 | 12 | 9 | | 6 | | 28 | +1 | -8 | +3 | 0 | +5 | -1 | Solihull | 9 | 1 | 3 | | 4 | | 17 | 12 | | | | 5 | | 17 | +3 | -1 | -3 | 0 | +1 | 0 | South Tyneside | | 18 | | | | | 18 | 1 | 14 | | 1 | 2 | | 18 | +1 | -4 | 0 | +1 | +2 | 0 | Stockport | 3 | 8 | 9 | 1 | | | 21 | 3 | 8 | 8 | 1 | 1 | | 21 | 0 | 0 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Sunderland | 2 | 22 | 1 | | | | 25 | 8 | 12 | 5 | | | | 25 | +6 | -10 | +4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Tameside | 2 | 17 | | | | | 19 | 3 | 16 | | | | | 19 | +1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Trafford | 10 | 9 | 2 | | | | 21 | 6 | 13 | 1 | | 1 | | 21 | -4 | 4 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Wakefield | 2 | 19 | | | | | 21 | 8 | 12 | 1 | | | | 21 | +6 | -7 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Walsall | 7 | 10 | 2 | 1 | | | 20 | 12 | 7 | | 1 | | | 20 | +5 | -3 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Wigan | 3 | 19 | | 1 | | 2 | 25 | 3 | 20 | | 1 | | 1 | 25 | 0 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | Wirral | 7 | 13 | 2 | | | | 22 | 8 | 9 | 2 | | 3 | | 22 | +1 | -4 | 0 | 0 | +3 | 0 | Wolverhampton | 2 | 18 | | | | | 20 | 7 | 13 | | | | | 20 | +5 | -5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 112 | 598 | 70 | 15 | 9 | 26 | 830 | 197 | 505 | 68 | 13 | 26 | 17 | 826 | +85 | -93 | -2 | -2 | +17 | -9 |
A few boroughs doing a lot of the heavy lifting here (notably Rotherham and Dudley) but generally a fairly consistent pattern of Conservatives and Greens making solid gains at Labour's expense and the Lib Dems standing still. Only obvious outlier here is Trafford where the pattern is the reverse of almost everywhere else.
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Post by Khunanup on May 11, 2021 15:33:15 GMT
You're starting to sound like a stuck record. No, Cornwall didn't "ruin it" for the Lib Dems. We held all our councils while Labour incumbents took a hammering (including losing seats to us.) We gained a council. We held our own in elections where in every nation the governing party got a Covid boost. We're doing surprisingly well in the PCC elections even though we think PCCs are a bad idea and didn't bother campaigning in any of them. I'd love us to regain Cornwall - mainly because I think the Tories will neglect it (they've already thrown the fishing industry under the bus). But were big in Cornwall for ages and it didn't amount to a hill of beans nationally. Some people talk as if prior to 2010 the Lib Dems were a mighty national force feared by other parties across the land - we weren't, we had a decent 3rd party vote share that was massively underrepresented in parliament (we didn't even have most MPs in Cornwall half the time) and were sneered at by tossers from left and right for daring to exist. Having Cornwall as your main area of strength doesn't make you a serious party, it makes you the fringiest of all fringe parties. You may hate woke globalists but it is winning us votes across large parts of southern England. Mainly in places where we established ourselves as second party in 2019, i.e. where we want to win them. There are, in fact, a fuck of a lot more of them than there are Cornish. Which may be a shame, but there you are. I'm at risk of sounding massively over-optimistic here, but the point is that LDs as a party of middle class Channel 4 watchers is much easier to see having a way back than LDs as a party of Celtic fringes, it's simply a bigger constituency. Blimey. LD stats without Cornwall: +32 councillors. With Cornwall: +7. That's all I was getting at. Sacrificing Cornwall for richer pastures further east is a legitimate decision, all I'm saying is you'll probably find it hard to regain lost ground in Cornwall.
Our campaign in Cornwall was diabolical though, so it's not as if we can't do anything to fix it. Whether we will fix it is another matter...
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 11, 2021 16:33:33 GMT
Unitary Authorities | 2016 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | 2021 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | Change Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Blackburn with Darwen ++ | 5 | 11 | 1 | | | | 17 | 6 | 11 | | | | | 17 | +1 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Bristol | 14 | 37 | 8 | | 11 | | 70 | 14 | 24 | 8 | | 24 | | 70 | 0 | -13 | 0 | 0 | +13 | 0 | Derby | 7 | 7 | 2 | | | 1 | 17 | 8 | 5 | 2 | | | 2 | 17 | +1 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | +1 | Halton * | 2 | 52 | 3 | | | | 57 | 2 | 48 | 3 | | 1 | | 54 | 0 | -4 | 0 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Hartlepool * | 3 | 14 | | 5 | | 11 | 33 | 13 | 11 | | 12 | | | 36 | +10 | -3 | 0 | +7 | 0 | -11 | Hull | 1 | 10 | 9 | | | | 20 | | 9 | 11 | | | | 20 | -1 | -1 | +2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Milton Keynes | 5 | 9 | 5 | | | | 19 | 11 | 5 | 3 | | | | 19 | +6 | -4 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | North East Lincolnshire | 3 | 7 | 2 | | | | 12 | 11 | | 1 | | | | 12 | +8 | -7 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Peterborough + | 14 | 3 | 3 | | | 2 | 22 | 16 | 3 | 1 | | 1 | 1 | 22 | +2 | 0 | -2 | 0 | +1 | -1 | Plymouth | 8 | 11 | | | | | 19 | 14 | 5 | | | | | 19 | +6 | -6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Portsmouth | 4 | 2 | 8 | | | | 14 | 5 | 2 | 6 | 1 | | | 14 | +1 | 0 | -2 | +1 | 0 | 0 | Reading | 3 | 11 | 1 | | 1 | | 16 | 3 | 10 | 1 | | 2 | | 16 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | Slough | 2 | 12 | | | | | 14 | 2 | 11 | | 1 | | | 14 | 0 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | 0 | Southampton | 4 | 11 | | 1 | | | 16 | 11 | 5 | | | | | 16 | +7 | -6 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Southend-on-Sea | 8 | 4 | 1 | 4 | | | 17 | 11 | 4 | 1 | 1 | | | 17 | +3 | 0 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | Swindon | 9 | 9 | 1 | | | | 19 | 14 | 5 | | | | | 19 | +5 | -4 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Thurrock | 7 | 4 | | | | 6 | 17 | 13 | 4 | | | | | 17 | +6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -6 | Warrington | 2 | 45 | 11 | | | | 58 | 11 | 36 | 8 | 3 | | | 58 | +9 | -9 | -3 | +3 | 0 | 0 | Wokingham | 14 | 1 | 3 | | | | 18 | 12 | | 6 | | | | 18 | -2 | -1 | +3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 115 | 260 | 58 | 10 | 12 | 20 | 475 | 177 | 198 | 51 | 18 | 28 | 3 | 475 | +62 | -62 | -7 | +8 | +16 | -17 |
A similar pattern to the Mets but with Conservative gains spread around more widely and Green gains mostly confined to Bristol and a pretty indifferent Lib Dem performance
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 12, 2021 20:33:20 GMT
Second tier districts | 2016 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | 2021 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | Changes Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adur | 7 | 3 | | 1 | | 4 | 15 | 9 | 4 | | 1 | 1 | | 15 | +2 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -4 | Amber Valley | 4 | 11 | | | | | 15 | 13 | 2 | | | | | 15 | +9 | -9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Basildon | 6 | 5 | | | | 3 | 14 | 9 | 3 | | 2 | | | 14 | +3 | -2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | Basingstoke & Deane * | 31 | 21 | 7 | 1 | | | 60 | 33 | 10 | 5 | 1 | | 5 | 54 | +2 | -11 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | Brentwood | 6 | 1 | 4 | 1 | | | 12 | 9 | | 3 | | | | 12 | +3 | -1 | -1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Broxbourne | 9 | 1 | | | | | 10 | 9 | 1 | | | | | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Burnley | 1 | 8 | 5 | | | 1 | 15 | 4 | 5 | 2 | | 3 | 1 | 15 | +3 | -3 | -3 | 0 | +3 | 0 | Cambridge * | | 26 | 15 | 1 | | | 42 | | 27 | 12 | 1 | 2 | | 42 | 0 | +1 | -3 | 0 | +2 | 0 | Cannock Chase | 3 | 9 | | | 1 | | 13 | 12 | | | | | 1 | 13 | +9 | -9 | 0 | 0 | -1 | 1 | Castle Point | 8 | | | | | 5 | 13 | 5 | | | 3 | | 5 | 13 | -3 | 0 | 0 | +3 | 0 | 0 | Cheltenham | 3 | | 15 | 1 | | 1 | 20 | 5 | | 14 | | | 1 | 20 | +2 | 0 | -1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Cherwell | 12 | 3 | | 1 | | | 16 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 1 | | | 16 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Chorley * | 8 | 37 | | 2 | | | 47 | 13 | 29 | | | | | 42 | +5 | -8 | 0 | -2 | 0 | 0 | Colchester | 7 | 4 | 5 | 1 | | | 17 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | | 17 | 0 | 0 | -1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Crawley ++ | 5 | 7 | | | | | 12 | 7 | 5 | | | | | 12 | +2 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Eastleigh ++ | 1 | | 10 | 1 | | | 12 | 1 | | 10 | 1 | | | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Elmbridge ++ | 6 | | 3 | | | 7 | 16 | 6 | | 3 | | | 7 | 16 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Epping Forest | 12 | | 1 | | 1 | 7 | 21 | 12 | | 1 | | 1 | 7 | 21 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Exeter ++ | 2 | 11 | | | | | 13 | 2 | 10 | | | 1 | | 13 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Fareham | 12 | | 2 | | | 1 | 15 | 13 | | 2 | | | | 15 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | Gloucester | 22 | 10 | 7 | | | | 39 | 26 | 3 | 10 | | | | 39 | +4 | -7 | +3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Gosport | 10 | 2 | 5 | | | | 17 | 11 | | 6 | | | | 17 | +1 | -2 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Harlow | 4 | 7 | | | | | 11 | 10 | 1 | | | | | 11 | +6 | -6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Hart | 5 | | 3 | | | 3 | 11 | 6 | | 3 | | | 2 | 11 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | Hastings | 3 | 13 | | | | | 16 | 8 | 7 | | | 1 | | 16 | +5 | -6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | Havant | 11 | 1 | | | | 2 | 14 | 14 | | | | | | 14 | +3 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2 | Hyndburn | 2 | 10 | | | | | 12 | 6 | 6 | | | | | 12 | +4 | -4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Ipswich | 2 | 13 | 1 | | | | 16 | 7 | 8 | 1 | | | | 16 | +5 | -5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Lincoln | 4 | 7 | | | | | 11 | 5 | 5 | 1 | | | | 11 | +1 | -2 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Maidstone | 7 | 1 | 8 | 2 | | 1 | 19 | 12 | 1 | 4 | 2 | | | 19 | +5 | 0 | -4 | 0 | 0 | -1 | Mole Valley | 5 | | 5 | | | 3 | 13 | 5 | | 5 | | | 3 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | North Hertfordshire | 7 | 6 | 2 | | | | 15 | 8 | 5 | 2 | | | | 15 | +1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Norwich | | 9 | 1 | | 3 | | 13 | | 8 | 1 | | 3 | | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Nuneaton & Bedworth | 5 | 11 | | | 1 | | 17 | 15 | 1 | | | 1 | | 17 | +10 | -10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Oxford * | | 36 | 9 | 1 | 2 | | 48 | | 34 | 9 | 2 | 3 | | 48 | 0 | -2 | 0 | +1 | +1 | 0 | Pendle * | 22 | 16 | 11 | | | | 49 | 18 | 10 | 5 | | | | 33 | -4 | -6 | -6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Preston ++ | 3 | 10 | 3 | | | | 16 | 5 | 10 | 1 | | | | 16 | +2 | 0 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Redditch | 2 | 7 | | | | | 9 | 9 | | | | | | 9 | +7 | -7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Reigate & Banstead ++ | 10 | | 1 | | 2 | 2 | 15 | 9 | | 1 | | 3 | 2 | 15 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | Rochford ++ | 6 | | 1 | | 1 | 5 | 13 | 8 | | 1 | 1 | | 3 | 13 | +2 | 0 | 0 | +1 | -1 | -2 | Rossendale | 2 | 10 | | | | | 12 | 4 | 7 | | 1 | | | 12 | +2 | -3 | 0 | +1 | 0 | 0 | Rugby | 7 | 3 | 3 | 1 | | | 14 | 9 | 2 | 3 | | | | 14 | +2 | -1 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Runnymede ++ | 8 | 1 | 1 | | 1 | 2 | 13 | 9 | | 1 | 1 | | 2 | 13 | +1 | -1 | 0 | +1 | -1 | 0 | Rushmoor | 8 | 4 | | | | 1 | 13 | 11 | 2 | | | 1 | | 14 | +3 | -2 | 0 | 0 | +1 | -1 | St Albans | 7 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 1 | | 18 | 7 | | 10 | | 1 | | 18 | 0 | -3 | +4 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Stevenage | 2 | 10 | 1 | | | | 13 | 5 | 6 | 2 | | | | 13 | +3 | -4 | +1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Stroud | 23 | 18 | 2 | | 8 | | 51 | 20 | 15 | 3 | | 13 | | 51 | -3 | -3 | +1 | 0 | 5 | 0 | Tamworth | 6 | 2 | | | | 2 | 10 | 10 | | | | | | 10 | +4 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2 | Tandridge | 8 | | 5 | | | 1 | 14 | 6 | | 3 | 3 | | 2 | 14 | -2 | 0 | -2 | +3 | 0 | +1 | Three Rivers | 4 | 1 | 8 | | | | 13 | 4 | 1 | 8 | | | | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Tunbridge Wells | 13 | 1 | 2 | | | | 16 | 7 | 2 | 6 | | | 1 | 16 | -6 | +1 | +4 | 0 | 0 | +1 | Watford | | 4 | 8 | | | | 12 | | 4 | 8 | | | | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Welwyn Hatfield ++ | 10 | 4 | 2 | | | | 16 | 14 | 2 | | | | | 16 | +4 | -2 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | West Lancashire | 5 | 12 | | | | 1 | 18 | 6 | 9 | | 1 | | 2 | 18 | +1 | -3 | 0 | +1 | 0 | +1 | West Oxfordshire | 12 | 3 | 2 | | | | 17 | 9 | 3 | 4 | | 1 | | 17 | -3 | 0 | +2 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Winchester ++ | 6 | | 8 | | | | 14 | 7 | | 7 | | | | 14 | 1 | 0 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Woking ++ | 6 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | | 10 | 4 | 1 | 5 | | | | 10 | -2 | 0 | 3 | -1 | 0 | 0 | Worcester | 3 | 7 | | | 2 | | 12 | 5 | 3 | 1 | | 3 | | 12 | +2 | -4 | +1 | 0 | +1 | 0 | Worthing | 11 | | 1 | | | 1 | 13 | 6 | 6 | 1 | | | | 13 | -5 | +6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 414 | 390 | 175 | 16 | 23 | 53 | 1071 | 505 | 265 | 169 | 22 | 39 | 44 | 1044 | +91 | -124 | -6 | +6 | +16 | -9 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total seats England 2016 | 641 | 1248 | 303 | 41 | 44 | 99 | 2376 | 879 | 968 | 288 | 53 | 93 | 64 | 2345 | +238 | -279 | -15 | +12 | +49 | -35 |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 12, 2021 20:39:33 GMT
Mayors etc | 2016 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | 2021 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | Changes Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Metro/Combined authority Mayors | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | London Mayor | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Assembly Constituency | 5 | 9 | | | | | | 5 | 9 | | | | | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Assembly List | 3 | 3 | 1 | | 2 | 2 | | 4 | 2 | 2 | | 3 | | | +1 | -1 | +1 | 0 | +1 | -2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total Assembly | 8 | 12 | 1 | | 2 | 2 | 25 | 9 | 11 | 2 | | 3 | 0 | 25 | +1 | -1 | 1 |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 12, 2021 20:44:29 GMT
PCCs | 2016 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | 2021 Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | Changes Con | Lab | LD | Ind | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Devon & Cornwall | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Avon & Somerset | | | | 1 | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | | | -1 | | | Gloucestershire | | | | 1 | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | | | -1 | | | Wiltshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Dorset | | | | 1 | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | | | -1 | | | Hampshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Sussex | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Kent | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Surrey | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Thames Valley | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bedfordshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hertfordshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Essex | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Suffolk | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Norfolk | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Cambridgeshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Northamptonshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Leicestershire | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | Lincolnshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Nottinghamshire | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | Derbyshire | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | Staffordshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Warwickshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | West Midlands | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | West Mercia | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Cheshire | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | Merseyside | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | Lancashire | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | Cumbria | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Northumbria | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | Durham | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | Cleveland | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | North Yorkshire | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Humberside | | 1 | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | -1 | | | | | South Yorkshire | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | West Yorkshire* | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | North Wales | | | | | | 1 | | | 1 | | | | | | | +1 | | | | -1 | Dyfed-Powys | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | South Wales | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | Gwent | | 1 | | | | | | | 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Total | 20 | 15 | | 3 | | 2 | 40 | 30 | 8 | | | | 1 | 39 | +10 | -6 | | -3 | | -1 |
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Post by Robert Waller on May 13, 2021 12:01:06 GMT
I would again like to thank Pete Whitehead for this indefatigable and extremely helpful work.
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