J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 5, 2021 13:59:20 GMT
2023 Review - East of England
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mattb
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Post by mattb on Jan 5, 2021 14:22:42 GMT
Think these are right ...
Beds 6.37
Herts 11.47
Cambs 8.06
Essex 18.38
Suffolk 7.60
Norfolk 9.21
So Beds and Suffolk cannot stand alone.
Herts-Beds looks sensible for 18 seats (+1)
Cambs almost exactly 8 on its own (+1)
That leaves either Norfolk-Suffolk or Essex-Suffolk for the third extra seat.
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Post by greenhert on Jan 5, 2021 14:32:38 GMT
Think these are right ... Beds 6.37 Herts 11.47 Cambs 8.06 Essex 18.38 Suffolk 7.60 Norfolk 9.21 So Beds and Suffolk cannot stand alone. Herts-Beds looks sensible for 18 seats (+1) Cambs almost exactly 8 on its own (+1) That leaves either Norfolk-Suffolk or Essex-Suffolk for the third extra seat. Essex-Suffolk in all likelihood-probably incorporating Haverhill and the rural parts of the Braintree district. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 5, 2021 14:34:28 GMT
Think these are right ... Beds 6.37 Herts 11.47 Cambs 8.06 Essex 18.38 Suffolk 7.60 Norfolk 9.21 So Beds and Suffolk cannot stand alone. Herts-Beds looks sensible for 18 seats (+1)Cambs almost exactly 8 on its own (+1) That leaves either Norfolk-Suffolk or Essex-Suffolk for the third extra seat. This is annoying but it didn't seem likely that the numbers would have increased in Hertfordshire enough for 12 whole seats, so many of us thought it inevitable. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 5, 2021 19:13:49 GMT
This works on the old numbers and the new ones (can provide if requested). Nothing we haven't seen before here but it works well  (Stevenage and NE Herts don't require any change to meet quota but I've moved Walkern only to equalise electorates a bit) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 6, 2021 7:31:10 GMT
 Cambridge 75672 South Cambridgeshire 75743 South East Cambridgeshire 70675 Ely 74481 North Cambridgeshire 70960 Peterborough 71684 Ramsey 75931 Huntingdon 76101 |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 6, 2021 10:19:32 GMT
I don't see any reason to believe that NE Cambridgeshire won't become co-extensive with Fenland district. Even if one wished to take a traditional counties line (and I see no evidence there's any local awareness of the Cambridgeshire-Huntingdonshire boundary as a meaningful thing) you're still putting bits of historic Northamptonshire in with the Isle of Ely.
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Post by hempie on Jan 6, 2021 10:54:33 GMT
Presumably you have chosen Ramsey as the title for the constituency because it is geographically central even though it is not the largest settlement - I think there are more electors in Yaxley and certainly more in Orton & the Hamptons (with several thousand more dwellings planned for Haddon just inside the Peterborough borough boundary).
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Post by Adrian on Jan 6, 2021 11:03:38 GMT
Presumably you have chosen Ramsey as the title for the constituency because it is geographically central even though it is not the largest settlement - I think there are more electors in Yaxley and certainly more in Orton & the Hamptons (with several thousand more dwellings planned for Haddon just inside the Peterborough borough boundary). Ramsey is the only town in the seat. Also, no-one has heard of Yaxley or Orton. I suppose the seat could be called Peterborough South & Ramsey, or North Huntingdonshire, or Norman Cross. |
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Post by mattb on Jan 6, 2021 11:15:45 GMT
Otherwise perhaps something along these lines (various ward swaps are possible).  |
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Post by hempie on Jan 6, 2021 11:19:55 GMT
I like the idea of using Norman Cross Hundred as it covers most of the area/population although Ramsey and its surrounding area were in the Hurstingstone Hundred.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 6, 2021 11:20:32 GMT
Presumably you have chosen Ramsey as the title for the constituency because it is geographically central even though it is not the largest settlement - I think there are more electors in Yaxley and certainly more in Orton & the Hamptons (with several thousand more dwellings planned for Haddon just inside the Peterborough borough boundary). |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 6, 2021 11:24:45 GMT
Otherwise perhaps something along these lines (various ward swaps are possible). It's a perfectly good alternative. I would prefer to put Thorney in the NW Cambs seat (if numbers allow) to maintain the compact Peterborough seat from my map |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 6, 2021 18:04:19 GMT
Presumably you have chosen Ramsey as the title for the constituency because it is geographically central even though it is not the largest settlement - I think there are more electors in Yaxley and certainly more in Orton & the Hamptons (with several thousand more dwellings planned for Haddon just inside the Peterborough borough boundary). It does also mean that you could merge it with Gordon.... |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 6, 2021 18:39:02 GMT
Presumably you have chosen Ramsey as the title for the constituency because it is geographically central even though it is not the largest settlement - I think there are more electors in Yaxley and certainly more in Orton & the Hamptons (with several thousand more dwellings planned for Haddon just inside the Peterborough borough boundary). Ramsey is the only town in the seat. Also, no-one has heard of Yaxley or Orton. I suppose the seat could be called Peterborough South & Ramsey, or North Huntingdonshire, or Norman Cross. Or call it Stilton, which people have heard of. Or Stanground in an attempt at I-can't-believe-it's-not-Peterborough. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 6, 2021 19:03:38 GMT
Ramsey is the only town in the seat. Also, no-one has heard of Yaxley or Orton. I suppose the seat could be called Peterborough South & Ramsey, or North Huntingdonshire, or Norman Cross. Or call it Stilton, which people have heard of. Or Stanground in an attempt at I-can't-believe-it's-not-Peterborough. I-can't-believe-it's-not-Peterborough. Utterly Peterborough Peterborough Lite Peterborough Spreadable Peterflora Peterboroughy Peterborough and Country Life East Fuck me, it's Peterborough You are a genius 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️, a whole new category of constituency names opens up, doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ will love it. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 6, 2021 19:12:45 GMT
If you were looking for a town name, St Ives is by some margin the biggest settlement in it. It wouldn't be a good name, but it'd be a name.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 6, 2021 19:23:41 GMT
I think you mean St Ivel!
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Post by YL on Jan 6, 2021 20:54:54 GMT
Here is my attempt at Cambridgeshire. Very similar to mattb 's plan.  Peterborough (red) 75,330 Peterborough West & Ramsey (blue) 76,182 Huntingdon (pink) 72,877 North East Cambridgeshire (yellow) 70,806 Ely (green) 74,065 Cambridge (turquoise) 72,553 South Cambridgeshire (brown) 75,474 St Neots (orange) 73,960 |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 7, 2021 11:53:59 GMT
Worth noting that the ward electorates for Cambridge refer to the old wards, not the new ones which the Review will use. Given that the Cambridge constituency's electorate changed by about 300 since December 2019, I'd advise using the current Boundary Assistant figures for the city for now and the ONS figures for the rest of the county. That means Cambridge is likely to shed Trumpington and otherwise remain unchanged, which contra to the ONS should work on the numbers.
I continue to think the new seat should ideally combine St Ives and areas north-west of Cambridge rather than St Neots and areas due west, because the community ties are stronger that way. That said, if NE Cambs does contract down to just Fenland district then the numbers push you to have SE Cambs including areas west of the Cam rather than east, which would make such a pairing trickier.
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