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Post by observer on Jul 25, 2024 7:40:37 GMT
So this is the first test for Harris. While she and many other Democrats were engaging in a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israeli protest, other pro-Palestinian/anti-Israeli protesters were burning American flags around the corner: The public will see all this, and their conclusions will be quick and simple: these are also Democrats, and Harris is with them. Does she have the courage to speak out here? Or does she hand Trump his first open goal? Does she want the comfort zone, or does she want to win? While the BBC reports all this disgraceful behaviour fairly faithfully, the Guardian leaves it to the GuardianUSA to report, which means - as expected - that the report is a sanitised and censored "lie by omission" account. It excluded all references to the violence of the protestors, the stealing and burning of US flags, and all the pro-Hamas and pro-terrorist graffiti and signs. The Guardian's USA branch is one of the most dishonest and duplicitous mainstream Western news organisations on the planet, with a decade-long record of manipulation, distortions, omissions, and outright lies (it's completely different staff to the GuardianUK, and now makes more money than the UK branch). This is an important factor to consider for those calling for censorship of 'misinformation' because of course they never mean of their own preferred narratives. www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/24/netanyahu-congress-protests-securityGuardian Media Group is a very unpleasant organisation. Union busters!
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Post by London Lad on Jul 25, 2024 8:07:44 GMT
While the BBC reports all this disgraceful behaviour fairly faithfully, the Guardian leaves it to the GuardianUSA to report, which means - as expected - that the report is a sanitised and censored "lie by omission" account. It excluded all references to the violence of the protestors, the stealing and burning of US flags, and all the pro-Hamas and pro-terrorist graffiti and signs. The Guardian's USA branch is one of the most dishonest and duplicitous mainstream Western news organisations on the planet, with a decade-long record of manipulation, distortions, omissions, and outright lies (it's completely different staff to the GuardianUK, and now makes more money than the UK branch). This is an important factor to consider for those calling for censorship of 'misinformation' because of course they never mean of their own preferred narratives. www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/24/netanyahu-congress-protests-securityGuardian Media Group is a very unpleasant organisation. Union busters! and tax evaders..
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 25, 2024 8:25:31 GMT
Hostage to fortune. I expect Harris to win by an innings and plenty because she is the only candidate who is not manifestly unfit for office. I was not aware of her anti Catholicism, but it speaks well of her on an otherwise thin resume As with many political women, her joyous enthusiasm for abortion troubles me. I honestly managed to live for fifty-five years without realising that abortion was aspirational. It was Irish women that awakened me 5x. So you expect her to win 'bigly'?
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Post by batman on Jul 25, 2024 8:48:31 GMT
Yawn...the usual suspects, slavishly pro-Israel, complain about the GuardianUSA. Good for the Guardian. I don't regard explicit support for Hamas as a yawning matter. They would kill me if they got the chance.
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Post by mboy on Jul 25, 2024 8:51:00 GMT
They would kill Mike as well, for different reasons.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2024 9:31:59 GMT
Guardian Media Group is a very unpleasant organisation. Union busters! and tax evaders.. The Graun once ran an article about GMG using the tax havens that was brilliant in its brass neck. Would you believe it, it turned out that use of tax havens is actually a really complicated full of nuance and subtlety.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 25, 2024 10:00:07 GMT
They would kill Mike as well, for different reasons. He'll still be banging on about Mumsnet while he's on his way from the rooftop to the ground..
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Post by London Lad on Jul 25, 2024 10:09:51 GMT
They would kill Mike as well, for different reasons. Bill Maher had a future headlines segment on his show the other day....
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Post by uthacalthing on Jul 25, 2024 11:26:07 GMT
At some point we will have to negotiate with Hamas and give them at least something to sell to their activist base.
And I think I have stumbled upon a concession we can easily make.
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jul 25, 2024 11:30:34 GMT
This can be read directly on electoral-vote.com, and presumably in US news sources, but some info on pointers to Democratic enthusiasm: $126 million raised from small donors 1.4 million small donors, of whom around 1 million hadn't donated before 74,000 small donors signed up for recurring donations 100,000 people volunteered for the campaign. All of these are since Sunday. Some grounds for optimism going forward.
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Post by riccimarsh on Jul 25, 2024 11:37:37 GMT
Republicans really do have some weird views about the franchise… extra votes for parents now??
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Post by cathyc on Jul 25, 2024 11:54:22 GMT
Republicans really do have some weird views about the franchise… extra votes for parents now?? Under those rules the Boundary Commission here would have to create a separate constituency just for the proxy votes in Boris Johnson's pocket.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 25, 2024 11:57:21 GMT
Republicans really do have some weird views about the franchise… extra votes for parents now?? Under those rules the Boundary Commission here would have to create a separate constituency just for the proxy votes in Boris Johnson's pocket.
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Post by mboy on Jul 25, 2024 16:39:50 GMT
She wants to win. Good.
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 25, 2024 16:51:24 GMT
She wants to be President of the United States and not president of the students union.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2024 16:58:20 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 25, 2024 17:01:12 GMT
Attacking the childless has a lot of potential to work for the Republicans in the same way as attacks on abortion rights have done.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2024 17:05:00 GMT
Attacking the childless has a lot of potential to work for the Republicans in the same way as attacks on abortion rights have done. Attacking IVF as well. A curious way to go.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 25, 2024 19:23:16 GMT
Attacking the childless has a lot of potential to work for the Republicans in the same way as attacks on abortion rights have done. Attacking IVF as well. A curious way to go. And cats. Very much crossing a line, there.
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Post by uthacalthing on Jul 25, 2024 20:31:23 GMT
Republicans really do have some weird views about the franchise… extra votes for parents now?? Labour favours giving votes to children and I think this may be a wonderful compromise
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