john07
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Post by john07 on Jan 14, 2021 22:27:08 GMT
Which one? Kamala Harris I don't find attractive at all - that isn't a deal breaker but it's not a likely scenario anyway. The question as to whether I 'would' and the question of whether a woman is easy on the eye are quite separate. Some superficially 'ugly' women can have a sexual appeal and some classically beautiful women can be quite uninspiring, but that's a different issue. At my time of life*, if they're easy on the eye they've almost certainly got a better offer. I just require them to be easy *most other times too come to think of it Unbelievably crass. Goes with the territory I’m afraid.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 14, 2021 22:57:23 GMT
If there has to be a dynastic approach to Republican nominees, George P. Bush would have more credibility than the other dynasts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 10:30:53 GMT
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 15, 2021 10:39:17 GMT
I'm now imagining a contest with Chelsea Clinton and Michelle Obama as the two major party candidates.
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 15, 2021 10:44:43 GMT
Which one is the Republican? Probably Chelsea. But really it was just a mildly amusing thought along those lines.
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Jan 15, 2021 11:01:34 GMT
Got to be a serious contender if Trumpism is side-lined.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 11:33:19 GMT
Got to be a serious contender of Trumpism is side-lined. Imagine a George P. Bush and Liz Cheney ticket!
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nelson
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Post by nelson on Jan 15, 2021 20:57:28 GMT
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 15, 2021 22:17:55 GMT
Got to be a serious contender of Trumpism is side-lined. Imagine a George P. Bush and Liz Cheney ticket! Dear Lord, must I? Surely 15 decades of the rosary and a walk up Croagh Patrick is penance enough?
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 15, 2021 22:18:53 GMT
Totally meaningless at the moment.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 15, 2021 22:21:32 GMT
Imagine a George P. Bush and Liz Cheney ticket! Dear Lord, must I? Surely 15 decades of the rosary and a walk up Croagh Patrick is penance enough? It is penance to work, to give oneself to others, to endure the pinpricks of community living*.
Dorothy Day
* Its almost like she foresaw internet forums.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 15, 2021 23:17:19 GMT
Dear Lord, must I? Surely 15 decades of the rosary and a walk up Croagh Patrick is penance enough? It is penance to work, to give oneself to others, to endure the pinpricks of community living*.
Dorothy Day
* Its almost like she foresaw internet forums. After she died, Fr Daniel Berrigan wrote of her: She lived the truth as if it were true", so maybe not, finsobruce
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Jan 16, 2021 9:56:24 GMT
Totally meaningless at the moment. Well we’d better hope so. It says something when the top-ranked non-criminal is 5th in a leadership poll
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Post by curiousliberal on Jan 16, 2021 20:57:44 GMT
Got to be a serious contender if Trumpism is side-lined. If Trumpism is to be sidelined, there has to be a natural progression to an alternative Republican candidate for most of his current supporters. Liz Cheney is one of the least plausible contenders here as she's a fairly obvious swamp creature.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 16, 2021 21:03:51 GMT
Got to be a serious contender if Trumpism is side-lined. If Trumpism is to be sidelined, there has to be a natural progression to an alternative Republican candidate for most of his current supporters. Liz Cheney is one of the least plausible contenders here as she's a fairly obvious swamp creature. But the challenge is not to find a replacement for Trump that is acceptable or liked by people who wouldn't vote Republican in a month of Sundays. It is to find someone that can be liked and even lauded by the Republicans, who would know that they are leaving Trumpsim behind without having to acknowledge it.
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Post by curiousliberal on Jan 16, 2021 21:08:07 GMT
If Trumpism is to be sidelined, there has to be a natural progression to an alternative Republican candidate for most of his current supporters. Liz Cheney is one of the least plausible contenders here as she's a fairly obvious swamp creature. But the challenge is not to find a replacement for Trump that is acceptable or liked by people who wouldn't vote Republican in a month of Sundays. It is to find someone that can be liked and even lauded by the Republicans, who would know that they are leaving Trumpsim behind without having to acknowledge it. That's my argument. Sidelining Trumpian types (in so far as they are a coherent bloc as opposed to a personality cult) requires putting forward a candidate who is somewhat palatable to Trump supporters while also not being radioactive elsewhere. Liz Cheney is too much of a throwback to a previous form of Republicanism many Trump supporters would deem unacceptable - her politics isn't that different from her father's, her brand certainly isn't (although much of that is outside of her control), and those voters backed Democrats when he was VP.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 16, 2021 21:14:56 GMT
But the challenge is not to find a replacement for Trump that is acceptable or liked by people who wouldn't vote Republican in a month of Sundays. It is to find someone that can be liked and even lauded by the Republicans, who would know that they are leaving Trumpsim behind without having to acknowledge it. That's my argument. Sidelining Trumpian types (in so far as they are a coherent bloc as opposed to a personality cult) requires putting forward a candidate who is somewhat palatable to Trump supporters while also not being radioactive elsewhere. Liz Cheney is too much of a throwback to a previous form of Republicanism many Trump supporters would deem unacceptable - her politics isn't that different from her father's, her brand certainly isn't (although much of that is outside of her control), and many of those voters backed Democrats when he was VP. We're agreeing. This is good news. I can safely have another glass of 2019 Urzinger Wurtzgaten
Not sure if you mean she's too much of a wet or a throwback but in this context I would once again recommend the recent Radio 4 series of short plays on recent Republican presidents. Well done and largely cliche free :
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jan 16, 2021 21:40:34 GMT
Totally meaningless at the moment. Well we’d better hope so. It says something when the top-ranked non-criminal is 5th in a leadership poll
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nelson
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Post by nelson on Jan 18, 2021 14:03:30 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 18, 2021 15:13:23 GMT
Someone should tell her that the phrase "No such thing as a free lunch" was coined by the sci fi writer Robert Heinlein in his 1966 book "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".
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