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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 19, 2020 8:26:57 GMT
There's always the "trump resigns, Pence takes over and pardons him" get out of jail card I guess  Pence desperately wants to avoid this scenario. As soon as he has presided over the electoral vote tabulation on 6th January he is heading overseas for a visit to Bahrain, Israel and Poland. This is scheduled to last a week but his people have said it might be longer. The assumption is that he will stay as far a way from Trump as possible to avoid having to have a conversation about this. |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 19, 2020 8:27:54 GMT
1. Appeal to Judge Judy? 2. Try to persuade the GOP State Legislatures in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia to nominate alternative electoral college delegates and persuade Mike Pence to accept them? 3. Lock himself in the White House with a megaphone in one hand and a Twitter feed in the other? 4. Retreat to Mar-a-Lago and sulk until they finally arrive to lock him up? Number 4 may be a non-starter as it now seems that their equivalent of planning permission prohibits anyone making it their primary residence. Do you really think given all the offences already committed he would be held back by a planning regulation? |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 19, 2020 8:33:25 GMT
Number 4 may be a non-starter as it now seems that their equivalent of planning permission prohibits anyone making it their primary residence. Do you really think given all the offences already committed he would be held back by a planning regulation? It isn't so much a planning regulation as a legally binding agreement he entered into with the local council. Some residents are already planning to go to court if he tries to break the agreement and given his less than stellar relationship with the council it seem unlikely that they will be willing to change the agreement. |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 19, 2020 9:06:41 GMT
Do you really think given all the offences already committed he would be held back by a planning regulation? It isn't so much a planning regulation as a legally binding agreement he entered into with the local council. Some residents are already planning to go to court if he tries to break the agreement and given his less than stellar relationship with the council it seem unlikely that they will be willing to change the agreement. Thank you for explaining that, but it sounds about on a par with getting him out of another property he is currently occupying at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. |
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Post by manchesterman on Dec 19, 2020 10:46:38 GMT
1. Appeal to Judge Judy? 2. Try to persuade the GOP State Legislatures in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia to nominate alternative electoral college delegates and persuade Mike Pence to accept them? 3. Lock himself in the White House with a megaphone in one hand and a Twitter feed in the other? 4. Retreat to Mar-a-Lago and sulk until they finally arrive to lock him up?
5. Leave for Scotland and join the SNP.
Make Scotland great again! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 10:47:52 GMT
I hope Trump doesn't move to Aberdeenshire. It might hurt the Tories in the overlapping Holyrood seat next May.
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Post by Eastwood on Dec 19, 2020 11:16:24 GMT
Number 4 may be a non-starter as it now seems that their equivalent of planning permission prohibits anyone making it their primary residence. Do you really think given all the offences already committed he would be held back by a planning regulation? I like to think that Trump despite all his other legal difficulties retains a deep respect for local planning enforcement issues. In that he is as one with the wholly above board and respectable development industry. |
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 19, 2020 11:30:10 GMT
Trump should never appear before a court as he is not responsible for his actions, end off In which case Article 25 should be invoked. |
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Post by manchesterman on Dec 19, 2020 11:38:32 GMT
bit late now |
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 19, 2020 12:16:58 GMT
I think this is the first time President Trump has told people to show up to a protest. He's mentioned #StoptheSteal rallies before and he's thanked people for going there but this is the first time he's mentioned a rally some time in advance and that he's specifically instructed his supporters to attend. The "will be wild" comment suggests it could be an interesting day. I would love to see a breakdown from anybody rational as to what "Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election" means. I suspect Trump doesn't even know what it means let alone being able to explain it. |
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Post by manchesterman on Dec 19, 2020 12:32:10 GMT
I heard Navarro interviewed on tv last night. He has no new "bombshell" stats in his report. Its the same rehash of the claims about it being a 'quadrillion to one' chance, that was soundly debunked by the "Stand up Maths" guy's video on the previous page of this thread.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Dec 19, 2020 12:33:24 GMT
Trump should never appear before a court as he is not responsible for his actions, end off In which case Article 25 should be invoked. Only Trump or Pence with the support of a majority of cabinet members can invoke it, one rumour is Pence tried and failed to invoke it through lack of support |
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 19, 2020 12:41:02 GMT
In which case Article 25 should be invoked. Only Trump or Pence with the support of a majority of cabinet members can invoke it, one rumour is Pence tried and failed to invoke it through lack of support I don’t think it was Pence, it was rumoured to be James Kelly when he was Chief of Staff, and Pence was the roadblock. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 19, 2020 12:44:14 GMT
it could be an interesting day. an interesting day that will do nothing to change the fact that Joe Biden will be sworn in as President in 32 days time. |
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Post by manchesterman on Dec 19, 2020 12:57:00 GMT
I think Trump deep down knows that he wont be President on 20 Jan, however he has to keep his base engaged so that he can keep on grifting away
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 19, 2020 13:14:29 GMT
Likely that at least a small part of him fantasises otherwise even now.
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Post by matureleft on Dec 19, 2020 13:47:32 GMT
One of the things that Trump and his fanbase have failed to grasp is that his, highly successful, strategy to strengthen the commitment of his base had a concomitant effect on those who disliked him. Yes, he achieved a staggering vote. But, bearing in mind that he'd never been a popular figure - no reputable poll placed him above 50% approval I think - he was always likely to generate a greater number of committed opponents through this approach.
The alternative strategy would have been to try to widen his base, and the virus surely gave him that opportunity. However his ego and love of bombast blocked that option.
His friends' statistically-based arguments simply miss this obvious picture.
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 19, 2020 15:08:52 GMT
One of the things that Trump and his fanbase have failed to grasp is that his, highly successful, strategy to strengthen the commitment of his base had a concomitant effect on those who disliked him. Yes, he achieved a staggering vote. But, bearing in mind that he'd never been a popular figure - no reputable poll placed him above 50% approval I think - he was always likely to generate a greater number of committed opponents through this approach. The alternative strategy would have been to try to widen his base, and the virus surely gave him that opportunity. However his ego and love of bombast blocked that option. His friends' statistically-based arguments simply miss this obvious picture. Quite. I'm not sure that Trump or his fanbase ever quite got to grips with reality outside their own bubble. Often you would hear arguments from him and them that he couldn't possible lose with crowds like he was attracting - it's all about the ratings. It is quite possible that he has been both the most loved and the most hated President in history, and he fell the wrong side of it ever to get re-elected. But the adrenaline and the constant self-affirmation of the crowds told them otherwise. There was a similar situation here on a lesser scale with Corbyn. His followers were unable to understand that he even could lose, so there was little chance of them accepting that he did. It's why the conspiracy theories and fraud have taken root so easily, because to lots of people it's the only possible explanation. |
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Post by MacShimidh on Dec 19, 2020 15:22:33 GMT
I hope Trump doesn't move to Aberdeenshire. It might hurt the Tories in the overlapping Holyrood seat next May. It wouldn’t be the first time there was a controversial egomaniac residing in Aberdeenshire East! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 18:29:34 GMT
I heard Navarro interviewed on tv last night. He has no new "bombshell" stats in his report. Its the same rehash of the claims about it being a 'quadrillion to one' chance, that was soundly debunked by the "Stand up Maths" guy's video on the previous page of this thread. "Million to one chances happen nine times out of ten" - Terry Pratchett |
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