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Post by yellowfox on Sept 16, 2020 22:56:50 GMT
In 2003 the Lab-LD Government won 67 seats, of course 65 are needed for a majority so very slight difference could have brought radically different parliamentary arithmetic.
Not wanting to fracture the rainbow parliament further lets have the SNP and Tories achieve a universal 2.5% swing in the constituencies against Labour and the Lib Dems without changing the list seats - this obviously wouldn't happen but we can skip over that for now. Lets also say the SNP gain the Western Isles from Labour due to local issues because why the hell not.
SNP gains from Labour: Cumbernauld & Kilsyth, Kilmarnock & Loudoun, Dundee West, Western Isles (4) SNP gains from LDs: Tweeddale, Ettrick & Lauderdale (1) Con gains from Labour: Dumfries (1)
This would have gave us a parliament like so:
Government (61) Labour - 45 Lib Dems - 16
Opposition (68) SNP - 32 Con - 19 Green - 7 SSP - 6 SSCUP - 1 Jean Turner (Save Stobhill Hospital) - 1 Dennis Canavan - 1 Margo MacDonald - 1
Presumably the only stable government would be Labour-LD-Green, but how does this impact politics going forward? Does the regression back to mainstream parties in 2007 not occur/is minimised? Would Swinney be able to hold onto the SNP leadership, and without Salmond no SNP government in 2007? Do the Greens get wiped out like they did in Ireland in 2011?
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 17, 2020 16:57:33 GMT
Presumably the only stable government would be Labour-LD-Green, but how does this impact politics going forward? Does the regression back to mainstream parties in 2007 not occur/is minimised? Would Swinney be able to hold onto the SNP leadership, and without Salmond no SNP government in 2007? Do the Greens get wiped out like they did in Ireland in 2011? If the Greens did get wiped out, it would be for entirely different reasons than the wipe-out of the Irish Greens in 2011. It seems unlikely that a Lab-Lib-Grn coalition would have pursued the type of policies that would lead Green voters to think the party had abandoned its principles, as with the Irish Greens in 2011 and the Westminster Lib Dems in 2015.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Sept 18, 2020 19:41:35 GMT
On a quick glance at the thread title I thought it said fractured Hollywood and wondered what the hell you were taking about!
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 18, 2020 21:13:30 GMT
On a quick glance at the thread title I thought it said fractured Hollywood and wondered what the hell you were taking about! The sign lost even more letters due to an Earthquake?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 27, 2020 10:26:23 GMT
I can't say I'm sure, but what an interesting division of seats it was back then.
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Post by neilm on Sept 27, 2020 12:38:19 GMT
The SSCUP spent £3.5k and won a seat, which must be one of the best results-per-pound ever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 13:04:55 GMT
The SSCUP spent £3.5k and won a seat, which must be one of the best results-per-pound ever. Certainly when compared to Archie Stirling's Scottish Voice, who spent £185k and got 3.3k votes in the following election. One wonders whether they might have got further if they'd launched in 2003 instead...
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 27, 2020 14:24:36 GMT
The SSCUP spent £3.5k and won a seat, which must be one of the best results-per-pound ever. Certainly when compared to Archie Stirling's Scottish Voice, who spent £185k and got 3.3k votes in the following election. One wonders whether they might have got further if they'd launched in 2003 instead... Maybe people thought it was a new saturday night talent competition on BBC Alba.
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