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Post by andrewp on Apr 13, 2020 17:52:04 GMT
This is probably partly Conservative strength and partly John Pennington strength, but John Pennington , Marldon, South Hams Council got the following results. This would take some beating for Conservative strength
1976 Con 50.2% Ind 49.8%
1979 Con 72.5% Res 27.5%
1983 Con unopposed
1987 Con 88.4% Lab 11.6%
1991 Con unopposed
1995. Con 87.4% LD 12.6%
1999 Con 91.7% LD 8.3%
2003 Con 92.2% LD 7.8%
2007 Con 89.5% LD 10.5%
2011. Con 78.3% Ind 16.6%, LD 5.1%
2015 Con 64.3% Green 21% LD 14.7%
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Post by warofdreams on Apr 13, 2020 18:04:48 GMT
From the 2019 results:
DUP: 47.8% Ards Peninsula (Ards & North Down) / 2.0% Downpatrick (Newry, Mourne & Down)
UUP: 36.1% Banbridge (Armagh, Banbridge & Craigavon) / 1.1% Collin (Belfast City)
SF: 68.8% Black Mountain (Belfast City) / 0.4% Ormiston (Belfast City)
SDLP: 41.9% Foyleside (Derry & Strabane) / 2.6% Court (Belfast City)
Alliance: 41.8% Ormiston (Belfast City) / 1.6% The Moor (Derry & Strabane)
Green NI: 19.2% Holywood and Clandeboye (Ards & North Down) / 1.5% Black Mountain (Belfast City)
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 13, 2020 18:22:20 GMT
While I can see you can have the usual fun with numbers, I am perplexed by all this. As has been already said, surely the worst ward for any party is the one where they cannot find a candidate, and every party will have somewhere like that, and I really don't see the "ah but if there had been a candidate it wouldn't have been that bad" as much of a defence. Similarly, it's difficult to do better than an unopposed election, even if you have a sneaking suspicion that if your candidate had had to actually compete with somebody else, anybody else, then surely they'd have lost? I think the fairest assessment would have to be based over a number of elections, say something like 5 goes, to iron out the oddities of particular years and get a real feel for where is really strong and where is really weak.
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 13, 2020 18:55:02 GMT
While I can see you can have the usual fun with numbers, I am perplexed by all this. As has been already said, surely the worst ward for any party is the one where they cannot find a candidate, and every party will have somewhere like that, and I really don't see the "ah but if there had been a candidate it wouldn't have been that bad" as much of a defence. Similarly, it's difficult to do better than an unopposed election, even if you have a sneaking suspicion that if your candidate had had to actually compete with somebody else, anybody else, then surely they'd have lost? I think the fairest assessment would have to be based over a number of elections, say something like 5 goes, to iron out the oddities of particular years and get a real feel for where is really strong and where is really weak. "Cannot find a candidate" in itself means myriad different things, mind. For the danger of thinking even five results is enough to say it's a 'good' ward, picture doing that two years ago from now. Castle Bromwich (Solihull) would have looked OK, right? 2011 Con 64% Green 8% 2012 Con 64% Green 7% 2014 Con 42% Green 4% 2015 Con 53% Green 5% 2016 Con 72% Green 10% 2018 Con 17% Green 64% |
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 14, 2020 9:06:09 GMT
Contender for best independent result: 89.7%, albeit against a solitary Labour opponent. Chadacre, Babergh, 2011. A ward in Derbyshire Dales beat that last year, and quite comfortably. |
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 14, 2020 9:26:22 GMT
Contender for best independent result: 89.7%, albeit against a solitary Labour opponent. Chadacre, Babergh, 2011. A ward in Derbyshire Dales beat that last year, and quite comfortably. Bloody hell, you're right. Winster and South Darley: 97.2%!! 758 votes to 22. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 16, 2020 13:10:17 GMT
The weakest will be where there's never been a candidate of that party. 👽 Not necessarily...who knows what might happen if they did stand? Indeed. I recall in 2009 we stood a paper candidate in Oswestry South division, Shropshire for the first time and weren't far off 20% of the vote. Failure to stand a candidate is usually a reflection of organisation at the local level, rather than support amongst the electorate. Which is a different kind of weakness - and one that is about the larger area, rather than the ward itself.
For the purposes of this exercise we probably need to restrict ourselves to bad results where there actually was a candidate. And, of course, there's always the question of how you determine party vote shares in multi-member seats.
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Post by November_Rain on Apr 24, 2020 18:02:25 GMT
North Somerset: Pill ward - Independent Don Davis got 91% in the 2019 locals. My ward is the worst for Labour in Weston-super-Mare on the council and probably parliamentary. Weston-super-Mare Hillside, we got 13% of the vote in 2019 locals. My street is the red island in a sea of yellow and blue  |
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Post by alexrichards on May 9, 2020 10:08:49 GMT
Contender for best independent result: 89.7%, albeit against a solitary Labour opponent. Chadacre, Babergh, 2011. A ward in Derbyshire Dales beat that last year, and quite comfortably. A ward in Derbyshire Dales beat that last year, and quite comfortably. Bloody hell, you're right. Winster and South Darley: 97.2%!! 758 votes to 22. Full credit to Labour for running what I think is the first full slate of any party ever in the council however. |
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Post by pl on May 9, 2020 10:13:46 GMT
A ward in Derbyshire Dales beat that last year, and quite comfortably. Bloody hell, you're right. Winster and South Darley: 97.2%!! 758 votes to 22. Full credit to Labour for running what I think is the first full slate of any party ever in the council however. I've never quite worked out why people think Independents are so wonderful. You frequently know little to nothing about their politics. But many of the electorate seem to have an obsession about "independents" being good things in local politics. Not being party political etc, when they actually have little to no influence over many. Rant over. |
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