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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2020 15:47:50 GMT
He was effectively a temperance candidate, being a member of the Independent Order of Rechabites and latterly quite high up in the movement (as it declined!). An accountant by profession, he had also run a coffee house in the city. The Sheffield Independent for the 22nd of November 1894 noted that "few were found" to regard his candidature as serious, but they said the same about Wolfe. Wolfe however had been a well known street corner orator in the city for many years. Wells-Smith "asked 2,000 of the electorate to give him plumpers , proclaimed himself independent of all political organisations". And at the other end of the table, with the most votes, is Charles Hobson. A 'Lib-Lab' member of Sheffield Council and President of the Sheffield Trades Council. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hobson_(trade_unionist)His 1916 accident happened in Leopold Street when he was crossing the road. He was taken back to his home at 3 Alpine Street, where the Sheffield Telegraph reported he "was as comfortable as could be expected".
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2020 21:05:31 GMT
Ok, not 1894 but 1897. Ages ago Devil Wincarnate asked for results for Chandlers Ford and despite searching I couldn't find anything. So I just went back to it and found that it was supposedly part of Hursley Rural District Council named after the vast Hursley Estate (owned by the Heathcote family). However Chandlers Ford was not granted councillors until 1897, probably due to the estate not being sold off until the 1890s. "Efforts made to avoid a contest having proved unsuccessful", the result was as follows: Elected:S R S Batley 45 S Beattie 30 Not Elected:J Rodaway 29 J T Wren 29 W Draper 14 T Mansbridge 14 R Bray 12 "The announcement gave rise to some little excitment, but this soon cooled down".
The only reference I can find to S R S Batley which gives a clue to his political affiliation is his presiding at a Temperance meeting, which could indicate he was a Liberal, although of course, this is not definitive. Mr R Bray is listed as a fruit grower in the nominations for 1896 , for the Ampfield 'ward'. Mr J T Wren seems to have been made bankrupt, and discharged from bankruptcy at Southampton Crown Court in 1897. Mr J Rodaway (previously an Otterbourne parish councillor) was a baker.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 15, 2020 21:12:22 GMT
They won't be related, but Draper is a major local employer in Chandlers Ford...
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2020 21:15:20 GMT
They won't be related, but Draper is a major local employer in Chandlers Ford... as in the people who used to sponsor Southampton?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 15, 2020 21:18:56 GMT
They won't be related, but Draper is a major local employer in Chandlers Ford... as in the people who used to sponsor Southampton? The very same. They are very well-liked round there and everybody seems to buy Draper for all their tools. I once won a Draper spade in a raffle at a community centre fundraiser in Chilworth, and everybody was remarkably excited by it. Also the only time I've seen a spade as a prize.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2020 21:40:51 GMT
Anyway, I've worked out in a backwards fashion that the people who contested Chandlers Ford in 1897 had previously been electors in Ampsfield and Otterbourne parishes. I think the lack of results for Hurstley RDC before 1897 is that they were listed/run concurrently with the elections for the Board of Guardians. I'll see what I can find.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 20, 2020 20:54:52 GMT
In 1936 Finchley Urban District Council had a councillor apparently elected as a "Women's Citizens representative". Going to work backwards and see if she was elected as such or just adopted the label later.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 21, 2020 10:37:16 GMT
In 1936 Finchley Urban District Council had a councillor apparently elected as a "Women's Citizens representative". Going to work backwards and see if she was elected as such or just adopted the label later. In 1937 there was a "Junior Progressive" candidate in Burngreave ward in Sheffield, and also a Fascist candidate. In a three-way contest Labour held the seat quite easily.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 22, 2020 20:14:12 GMT
Wortley Rural District, Saturday 15th December 1894
Bradfield ward (1 member) Thomas Wragg, Stone Merchant 91 Thomas Hague Ellis, Clerk 90
Ecclesfield ward (2) John Green, Ironfounder 94 John Gregory, Gentleman 64 John Joseph Greaves, Auctioneer 36 William Robert Unwin, Mason 35 Henry Greaves, Filecutter 33
Grenofirth (Chapeltown) ward (4) James Fazey, Insurance Agent (L) 391 Thomas Smith, Manager (L) 347 Edward Mellor, Publican (L) 328 Frank Cartledge, Hotel Keeper & Confectioner (L) 294 George Henry Dawson, Builder (?) 284 Alfred Wroe, Ironmonger (?) 278 Edward Milns, Draper (?) 251 Joseph Smith, Farmer (?) 171 William Hobson, Gentleman (?) 149 James Stringer, Grocer and Provision Dealer (?) 145 John Wilkinson, Retired Plumber (?) 144
Southey ward (2) Henry Vickers, Mining Surveyor 79 George H. Maclean, Gentleman 73 John William Pease, Commission Agent 55
Stannington ward (2) Samuel Parkes, Clerk in Holy Orders 160 William Lomas, Brick Manufacturer 155 Mark Faulder, Quarryman 148 George Henry Revitt, Farmer 64
Tankersley ward (2) George Dawson, Ironmaster – Unopposed George Blake Walker, Colliery Manager – Unopposed
Wadsley (Hillsborough) ward (3) Charles Bramall, Ganister Merchant (L) 334 William Bush, Grocer (L) 334 William Frankish, Mercantile Agent (L) 294 Joseph Kaye, Gentleman (L) 216 James Willis Dixon, Silver Manufacturer (C) 188 Clement Vernon Bunting, Steel Manufacturer (C) 167 James Storey, Tailor (Lab) 67
Westnall (Oughtibridge & Midhope) ward (2) Joseph Turner, Stone merchant (C) 259 Joseph Dixon, Paper Manufacturer (C) 224 William Rawthorne, Clerk in Holy Orders (?) 97 George Crapper, Gentleman (?) 66
“A public meeting in furtherance of the candidature of the Rev. W. Rawthorne was held last night in the Oughtibridge National School, Mr. J. T. Minnis in the chair. A number of old grievances between the vicar and the parishioners were brought up. Several other candidates spoke. The meeting broke up in a somewhat disorderly manner, no resolution being put”. - Sheffield Independent, Friday 14 December
Wincobank ward (2) George Greaves, Estate Agent – Unopposed David Haigh, Coal Merchant – Unopposed
Wortley (1) C. J. E. Broughton, Land Agent – Unopposed
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 22, 2020 20:59:57 GMT
Wortley Rural District, Saturday 15th December 1894Westnall (Oughtibridge & Midhope) ward (2) Joseph Turner, Stone merchant (C) 259 Joseph Dixon, Paper Manufacturer (C) 224 William Rawthorne, Clerk in Holy Orders (?) 97 George Crapper, Gentleman (?) 66“A public meeting in furtherance of the candidature of the Rev. W. Rawthorne was held last night in the Oughtibridge National School, Mr. J. T. Minnis in the chair. A number of old grievances between the vicar and the parishioners were brought up. Several other candidates spoke. The meeting broke up in a somewhat disorderly manner, no resolution being put”. - Sheffield Independent, Friday 14 December I decided to pursue Mr Crapper and these grievances and found that back in 1888 there was a dispute over whether the sanitary authority should build a cemetry in Oughtibridge. The report of the Sheffield Independent says that Mr Crapper attended the count on behalf of Mr Turner who favoured the proposal , against Mr Rawthorne who was opposed. You would have thought a vicar would be in favour of a burial ground...
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 22, 2020 22:17:55 GMT
Wortley Rural District, Saturday 15th December 1894Westnall (Oughtibridge & Midhope) ward (2) Joseph Turner, Stone merchant (C) 259 Joseph Dixon, Paper Manufacturer (C) 224 William Rawthorne, Clerk in Holy Orders (?) 97 George Crapper, Gentleman (?) 66“A public meeting in furtherance of the candidature of the Rev. W. Rawthorne was held last night in the Oughtibridge National School, Mr. J. T. Minnis in the chair. A number of old grievances between the vicar and the parishioners were brought up. Several other candidates spoke. The meeting broke up in a somewhat disorderly manner, no resolution being put”. - Sheffield Independent, Friday 14 December I decided to pursue Mr Crapper and these grievances and found that back in 1888 there was a dispute over whether the sanitary authority should build a cemetry in Oughtibridge. The report of the Sheffield Independent says that Mr Crapper attended the count on behalf of Mr Turner who favoured the proposal , against Mr Rawthorne who was opposed. You would have thought a vicar would be in favour of a burial ground... Could be that as a municipal cemetary it would be out of his control.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 23, 2020 13:37:41 GMT
I decided to pursue Mr Crapper and these grievances and found that back in 1888 there was a dispute over whether the sanitary authority should build a cemetry in Oughtibridge. The report of the Sheffield Independent says that Mr Crapper attended the count on behalf of Mr Turner who favoured the proposal , against Mr Rawthorne who was opposed. You would have thought a vicar would be in favour of a burial ground... Could be that as a municipal cemetary it would be out of his control. He must have been gravely worried about that prospect.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 23, 2020 13:48:09 GMT
Could be that as a municipal cemetary it would be out of his control. He must have been gravely worried about that prospect. There will have been inter minable arguments about the subject.
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 23, 2020 14:01:02 GMT
He must have been gravely worried about that prospect. There will have been inter minable arguments about the subject. It was all a plot.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 23, 2020 14:02:05 GMT
There will have been inter minable arguments about the subject. It was all a plot. A grave situation.
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Post by swanarcadian on Dec 15, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
It's worth mentioning that the first elections for the urban and rural districts were generally held on this day (15 December) in 1894. Those that polled on that Saturday (and the few days that followed, most of them on Monday 17th) skipped holding elections in 1895, then began holding them in March, April or May from 1896 every year until 1972 (with gaps between 1916 and 1918 and 1940 and 1945). Here are results from the 15th December for the West Riding of Yorkshire (behind a paywall) as reported by the Yorkshire Post on the 17th. Some results from Lincolnshire are also reported: www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000687/18941217/089/0005
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