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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 5, 2020 20:27:23 GMT
Stocksbridge Urban District, Saturday 15th December 1894The Sheffield Independent labels two of the candidates as ‘L C’. Is it possible that a candidate would be adopted / endorsed by two political parties during this era? Or is it more likely to be a typing error? Elected
Priam J. Hudson, Farmer (C) 464
Thomas E. Batty, Inn Keeper (C) 434
Issac Waterhouse, Farmer (C) 416
William R. Knight, Clerk (C) 384
Charles Macro Wilson, Solicitor (C) 363
George Sampson, Builder (C) 338
Joseph Moxon, Manager (L) 329
Charles E. Marsden, Chemist (C) 318
Rev. Charles M. Potts, Clerk in Holy Orders (C) 315
Benjamin Webster, Farmer (L C) 265
John Brearley, Mason (L) 248
Edward Bramley, School Master (C) 245
Not Elected
Henry Jones, School Master (L) 226
Rev. Henry Robertshaw, Congregational Minister (L) 209
Joseph Poole, Roll Turner (L) 183
Joe Helliwell, Wiredrawer (L) 180
Benjamin C. Gowing, Surgeon (C) 177
James W. Brearley, Grocer’s Assistant (L) 172
John C. Kenworthy, Bookkeeper (L) 172
William Conyers, Stockkeeper (L) 164
Benjamin Batty, Farmer (C) 162
Isaiah Bagnall, Tyre Roller (L) 132
James B. Nichols, Inn Keeper (C) 129
James Thompson, Builder (L C) 121
Joseph Holling, Engine Tenter (L) 112
John Sampson, Mason (L) 112
Benjamin Couldwell, Gentleman (C) 79
Joe Hepworth, Stationer (L) 79
Fred Webster, Builder (?) 64
William Shaw, Quarryman (L) 40 You don't get many kids named "Priam" these days, though "Macro" is quite forward looking. |
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Post by swanarcadian on Nov 5, 2020 20:37:36 GMT
There seems to have been a lot of candidates for UDCs in my neck of the woods in those earlier years with surnames for first names: Lund Thompson in Bingley, Thompson Marshall in Yeadon, Wright Hargreaves in Rawdon.
My personal favourite has to be one from Baildon: Ambrose Theophilus Middleton Schofield.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 5, 2020 20:50:08 GMT
Stocksbridge Urban District, Saturday 15th December 1894The Sheffield Independent labels two of the candidates as ‘L C’. Is it possible that a candidate would be adopted / endorsed by two political parties during this era? Or is it more likely to be a typing error? Elected
Priam J. Hudson, Farmer (C) 464
Thomas E. Batty, Inn Keeper (C) 434
Issac Waterhouse, Farmer (C) 416
William R. Knight, Clerk (C) 384
Charles Macro Wilson, Solicitor (C) 363
George Sampson, Builder (C) 338
Joseph Moxon, Manager (L) 329
Charles E. Marsden, Chemist (C) 318
Rev. Charles M. Potts, Clerk in Holy Orders (C) 315
Benjamin Webster, Farmer (L C) 265
John Brearley, Mason (L) 248
Edward Bramley, School Master (C) 245
Not Elected
Henry Jones, School Master (L) 226
Rev. Henry Robertshaw, Congregational Minister (L) 209
Joseph Poole, Roll Turner (L) 183
Joe Helliwell, Wiredrawer (L) 180
Benjamin C. Gowing, Surgeon (C) 177
James W. Brearley, Grocer’s Assistant (L) 172
John C. Kenworthy, Bookkeeper (L) 172
William Conyers, Stockkeeper (L) 164
Benjamin Batty, Farmer (C) 162
Isaiah Bagnall, Tyre Roller (L) 132
James B. Nichols, Inn Keeper (C) 129
James Thompson, Builder (L C) 121
Joseph Holling, Engine Tenter (L) 112
John Sampson, Mason (L) 112
Benjamin Couldwell, Gentleman (C) 79
Joe Hepworth, Stationer (L) 79
Fred Webster, Builder (?) 64
William Shaw, Quarryman (L) 40 You don't get many kids named "Priam" these days, though "Macro" is quite forward looking. But an old family, 'The Wilsons of Broomhead can be traced back to the 13th century...' www.calmview.eu/SheffieldArchives/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=Wil+D |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 5, 2020 21:02:03 GMT
There seems to have been a lot of candidates for UDCs in my neck of the woods in those earlier years with surnames for first names: Lund Thompson in Bingley, Thompson Marshall in Yeadon, Wright Hargreaves in Rawdon. My personal favourite has to be one from Baildon: Ambrose Theophilus Middleton Schofield. So that's where all the surnames went! My MSPs since the start of the Holyrood Parliament in 1999 have been Wendy Alexander, Hugh Henry and Tom Arthur. My 6000th post. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 6, 2020 16:49:46 GMT
Penistone Urban District, Saturday 15th December 1894
Elected
E. Wood, Foreman, engineer and steel works (L) 186
T. M. Lewis, Steel works manager (L) 179
A. C. J. Wilson, Surgeon (L) 174
P. Crawshaw, Bank Manager (C) 156
B. T. Hinchliffe, Boot and shoe maker (?) 155
Thomas Willis Stones, Brewer (C) 143
W. S. Turnbull, Clerk in Holy Orders (C) 128
A. Crossley, Clerk (L) 127
J. Brownhill, Licensed Victualler (C) 80
Not Elected
C. Burrow, Railway Signalman (L) 78
C. Crick, Railway Signalman (L) 73
J. Wadsworth, Steel worker (L) 73
W. J. Sharratt, Wagon Inspector (L) 72
G. H. Fieldsend, Farmer (L) 71
W. F. Moorhouse, Gentleman (C) 64
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 6, 2020 17:28:02 GMT
Penistone Urban District, Saturday 15th December 1894
Elected
E. Wood, Foreman, engineer and steel works (L) 186
T. M. Lewis, Steel works manager (L) 179
A. C. J. Wilson, Surgeon (L) 174
P. Crawshaw, Bank Manager (C) 156
B. T. Hinchliffe, Boot and shoe maker (?) 155
T. W. Stones, Brewer (C) 143
W. S. Turnbull, Clerk in Holy Orders (C) 128
A. Crossley, Clerk (L) 127
J. Brownhill, Licensed Victualler (C) 80
Not Elected
C. Burrow, Railway Signalman (L) 78
C. Crick, Railway Signalman (L) 73
J. Wadsworth, Steel worker (L) 73
W. J. Sharratt, Wagon Inspector (L) 72
G. H. Fieldsend, Farmer (L) 71
W. F. Moorhouse, Gentleman (C) 64 All your recent posts have been excellent David. I hope it is your intention to duplicate them on the old councils forum! |
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 6, 2020 18:07:50 GMT
Penistone Urban District, Saturday 15th December 1894
Elected
E. Wood, Foreman, engineer and steel works (L) 186
T. M. Lewis, Steel works manager (L) 179
A. C. J. Wilson, Surgeon (L) 174
P. Crawshaw, Bank Manager (C) 156
B. T. Hinchliffe, Boot and shoe maker (?) 155
T. W. Stones, Brewer (C) 143
W. S. Turnbull, Clerk in Holy Orders (C) 128
A. Crossley, Clerk (L) 127
J. Brownhill, Licensed Victualler (C) 80
Not Elected
C. Burrow, Railway Signalman (L) 78
C. Crick, Railway Signalman (L) 73
J. Wadsworth, Steel worker (L) 73
W. J. Sharratt, Wagon Inspector (L) 72
G. H. Fieldsend, Farmer (L) 71
W. F. Moorhouse, Gentleman (C) 64 All your recent posts have been excellent David. I hope it is your intention to duplicate them on the old councils forum! Thank you. I really should get around to joining that forum. |
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Post by Crimson King on Nov 6, 2020 23:02:37 GMT
is the T W Stones (brewer) any relation to the Stones brewery of (I think) Sheffield
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 7, 2020 9:54:10 GMT
is the T W Stones (brewer) any relation to the Stones brewery of (I think) Sheffield His death was announced in the Sheffield Daily Telegraph on Saturday 27 April 1901. 'The remains of Mr. Thomas Willis Stones head of the firm of Messrs. Brook and Co., brewers, Penistone, were interred at the Cemetery, Penistone, yesterday.' I don't know if there is any connection between Brook and Co. and Stones brewery. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 10, 2020 20:07:40 GMT
Penistone Rural District, Saturday 15th December 1894The Barnsley Chronicle (Saturday 8 December) says there are two Rural District councillors in Cawthorne ward (or is it division?), one councillor in High Hoyland and one in Langsett. It names the candidates for the Parish Councils but, unless I’m missing something obvious, I can’t see the candidates for those wards for the Rural District. Cawthorne
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Hunshelf
G. Wordsworth, Farmer
Langsett
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Oxspring
George Winterbottom, Wire Manufaturer 28
Thomas Crawshaw, Retired Farmer 18
Silkstone
Thomas Marsland 126
Rev. W. S. Barker 53
G. B. Sykes 6
Thurgoland
Thomas B. Hague, Farmer (C) 63
James Laycock, Newsagent (L) 55
John Dyson, Wire Manufacturer (C) 29
George Wordsworth, Farmer (C) 28
Thomas Haigh, Farmer (C) 26
Edward Neville, Gentleman (C) 22
‘6 illiterates and one spoilt paper’Walter Holling (Cawthorne) and Emily Jane Clarke (Silkstone) withdrew as candidates.
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 10, 2020 20:32:17 GMT
Penistone Rural District, Saturday 15th December 1894The Barnsley Chronicle (Saturday 8 December) says there are two Rural District councillors in Cawthorne ward (or is it division?), one councillor in High Hoyland and one in Langsett. It names the candidates for the Parish Councils but, unless I’m missing something obvious, I can’t see the candidates for those wards for the Rural District. The best way to consider Rural District Councillors, in my view, is that they are elected from parishes (rather than wards or divisions). It is very likely that the unopposed returns to the RDC were filled by candidates who also contested the parish council election for the area concerned. You may be able, after careful cross-checking, to find reports of the inaugural meetings of the Rural District Council or the new Board of Guardians (very likely early in January 1895). Quite often journalists of the era would pad out their report by a full list of attendees and thereby give you your missing names. (Assuming there were candidates - remember that in this era it is quite possible there were insufficient nominations for the number of vacancies!) |
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Post by swanarcadian on Nov 10, 2020 22:38:27 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 10, 2020 22:40:23 GMT
Yes, RDCs were all out with three year terms.
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 15, 2020 11:08:22 GMT
Sheffield School Board, Wednesday 21st November 1894
There were 18 candidates for 15 seats.
Education Act candidates (7)
John Newton Coombe, Solicitor
Samuel Gray Richardson, Cutlery Manufacturer
Robert Jackson, Cardboard Manufacturer
Thomas Houghton, Clerk in Holy Orders
William Colver, Hosier and General Draper
Henry Ashington, Solicitor
Arthur Wood Warner, Chartered Accountant
Roman Catholic candidate (1)
Luke Burke, Catholic Clergyman
Unsectarian candidates (7)
Frederick Percy Rawson, Cutlery Manufacturer
James Knowles, Steel and wire Merchant
William Armitage, Secretary of Sheffield Manual Training School
Mary Ann Palmer Ripper
Henry Adams, Insurance Director
Ellen Maud Maxfield, Spinster, daughter of Councillor John Maxfield
Thomas William Holmes, Congregational Minister
Labour candidates (2)
Andrew Garey Wolfe, General Labourer
Charles Hobson, Metal Spinner
Independent candidate (1)
Henry Wells-Smith, Chartered Accountant
The above list of candidates is from the Sheffield Telegraph and the results table below is from the Sheffield Independent and some of the party labels are different.
“The counting was a long and tedious business” - Sheffield Independent, Friday 23 November
Elected
C. Hobson (Labour) 44,394
A. W. Warner (Church) 32,543
R. Jackson (Church) 30,964
W. Colver (Church) 30,734
J. Knowles (Unsectarian) 28,900
S. G. Richardson (Church) 28,890
Rev. T. Houghton (Church) 27,884
H. Ashington (Church) 25,668
Rev. L. Burke (Roman Catholic) 25,141
J. N. Coombe (Church) 24,925
Mrs Ripper (Unsectarian) 24,618
Miss E. Maud Maxfield (Unsectarian) 24,132
H. Adams (Unsectarian) 21,821
Rev. T. W. Holmes (Unsectarian) 21,280
W. Armitage (Unsectarian) 17,683
Not Elected
F. P. Rawson (Unsectarian) 17,659
A. G. Wolfe (Social Democrat) 15,338
H. Wells-Smith (Independent) 652
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 15, 2020 11:39:09 GMT
Two points which are worth noting about School Board elections:
1) They were almost always fought on religious grounds
2) They used the accumulative vote system: each voter had as many votes as there were seats, but could chose to use multiple votes on the same candidate
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 15, 2020 12:53:42 GMT
Sheffield School Board, Wednesday 21st November 1894... Not Elected
F. P. Rawson (Unsectarian) 17,659
A. G. Wolfe (Social Democrat) 15,338
H. Wells-Smith (Independent) 652 Wow. Who had Henry Wells-Smith pissed off? |
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 15, 2020 13:10:08 GMT
Sheffield School Board, Wednesday 21st November 1894... Not Elected
F. P. Rawson (Unsectarian) 17,659
A. G. Wolfe (Social Democrat) 15,338
H. Wells-Smith (Independent) 652 Wow. Who had Henry Wells-Smith pissed off? He was effectively a temperance candidate, being a member of the Independent Order of Rechabites and latterly quite high up in the movement (as it declined!). An accountant by profession, he had also run a coffee house in the city. The Sheffield Independent for the 22nd of November 1894 noted that "few were found" to regard his candidature as serious, but they said the same about Wolfe. Wolfe however had been a well known street corner orator in the city for many years. Wells-Smith "asked 2,000 of the electorate to give him plumpers , proclaimed himself independent of all political organisations". |
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 15, 2020 13:26:20 GMT
An accountant by profession, he had also run a coffee house in the city. The Sheffield Independent for the 22nd of November 1894 noted that "few were found" to regard his candidature as serious, but they said the same about Wolfe. Wolfe however had been a well known street corner orator in the city for many years. Wells-Smith "asked 2,000 of the electorate to give him plumpers , proclaimed himself independent of all political organisations". Have I understood David's post correctly, and that for this election 2000 plumpers would deliver 2000 x 15 = 30,000 votes? |
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 15, 2020 13:39:24 GMT
An accountant by profession, he had also run a coffee house in the city. The Sheffield Independent for the 22nd of November 1894 noted that "few were found" to regard his candidature as serious, but they said the same about Wolfe. Wolfe however had been a well known street corner orator in the city for many years. Wells-Smith "asked 2,000 of the electorate to give him plumpers , proclaimed himself independent of all political organisations". Have I understood David's post correctly, and that for this election 2000 plumpers would deliver 2000 x 15 = 30,000 votes? Yes. Individual candidates wanted plumpers. The groups gamed their nominations to maximise representation. Tons of articles on JSTOR about CV and School Boards. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Nov 15, 2020 15:32:44 GMT
Wow. Who had Henry Wells-Smith pissed off? He was effectively a temperance candidate, being a member of the Independent Order of Rechabites and latterly quite high up in the movement (as it declined!). An accountant by profession, he had also run a coffee house in the city. The Sheffield Independent for the 22nd of November 1894 noted that "few were found" to regard his candidature as serious, but they said the same about Wolfe. Wolfe however had been a well known street corner orator in the city for many years. Wells-Smith "asked 2,000 of the electorate to give him plumpers , proclaimed himself independent of all political organisations". And at the other end of the table, with the most votes, is Charles Hobson. A 'Lib-Lab' member of Sheffield Council and President of the Sheffield Trades Council. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hobson_(trade_unionist) |
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