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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 16:34:10 GMT
Any other guesses?  Miss Holgate was declared elected under gender balance rules. warmer, but still not correct. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 22, 2020 17:01:03 GMT
The two were requested to draw lots. Any other guesses? Miss Holgate was pressurised to withdraw because she was only a woman , after all. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 22, 2020 17:08:31 GMT
Any other guesses? Miss Holgate was pressurised to withdraw because she was only a woman , after all. They had to fight a duel? |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 17:19:49 GMT
Any other guesses? Miss Holgate was pressurised to withdraw because she was only a woman , after all. To the victor, the spoils.
"It was stated that Miss Holgate wished to retire".
It's worth noting that her father, a school inspector, was elected at the same poll, eleven votes ahead of her.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Mar 22, 2020 19:07:50 GMT
"There is an awkward fix at Springfield. Upon the first count of the poll for parish councillors three candidates tied for last place. On a recount one was thrown out by the rejection of a vote and two tied viz Miss Holgate and Mr J C Smith of Sandford Mill.
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I will try and find the sequel to this. Would any participants in the prediction competition like to guess what resulted? As a descendant of several generations of women who voted in local elections before the 1918 Parliamentary reforms, I want Miss Holgate to win!  |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 19:15:56 GMT
"There is an awkward fix at Springfield. Upon the first count of the poll for parish councillors three candidates tied for last place. On a recount one was thrown out by the rejection of a vote and two tied viz Miss Holgate and Mr J C Smith of Sandford Mill.
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I will try and find the sequel to this. Would any participants in the prediction competition like to guess what resulted? As a descendant of several generations of women who voted in local elections before the 1918 Parliamentary reforms, I want Miss Holgate to win! I will now check to see if she managed to get there in an election after 1894. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Mar 22, 2020 19:19:50 GMT
As a descendant of several generations of women who voted in local elections before the 1918 Parliamentary reforms, I want Miss Holgate to win! I will now check to see if she managed to get there in an election after 1894. I've just finished watching Back In Time to the Corner Shop, and it's prompted a thought that in the 1890s/1900s episodes they never mentioned elections. Many shopkeepers at the time arranged for the wife to have the Business Vote and the husband to have the Household Vote, to get two votes. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 19:58:09 GMT
Miss Holgate was presented with a handsome carriage clock in 1897 in recognition for her past services as organist at the church in Springfield.
The presentation was made as she was leaving the district, but it doesn't mention why. I suspect this marked the end of her local government ambitions but I'll see if there is anything else.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 22:28:08 GMT
Assuming she didn't marry and lived that long I've found two Miss M Holgates both in the 1930s. One was the secretary of a subscription organisation called the Haywards Heath Nursing Association and had been associated with it since its inception about twenty years earlier. There was some sort of rumpus, which was alluded to but never exactly named which lead for the committee to suggest the Association be dissolved and re-formed, but this was rejected at an EGM. The other lived in Leeds and was apparently cured of arthritis on a trip to Lourdes.
My money's on the first, as she is heavily engaged in a local social care organisation, but there's no way of knowing.
In other news I have found the full set of Essex election results for December 1894 and I will get on with reproducing them here tomorrow. There is a fair bit of narrative attached to some of them which should make things a bit more interesting. |
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Mar 23, 2020 16:30:28 GMT
They tried to toss a coin, but it was a magicians 2 headed coin, so it was decided by who could down a pint fastest is what should have happened!
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2020 16:44:54 GMT
They tried to toss a coin, but it was a magicians 2 headed coin, so it was decided by who could down a pint fastest is what should have happened!
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Too late, but my favourite suggestion so far. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 23, 2020 17:08:46 GMT
They tried to toss a coin, but it was a magicians 2 headed coin, so it was decided by who could down a pint fastest is what should have happened!
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Too late, but my favourite suggestion so far. Might I guess that had the suggestion of Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith been enacted, the result would have been much the same? |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2020 22:20:40 GMT
Chingford UDC December 1894
Elected:
Brown (Merchant) 187
Herring (Fellow of the Institute of Secretaries) 173
Sheldon (Gentleman) 157
Wakefield (Surveyor) 153
Lodge (Publican) 151
Savill (Gentleman) 143
A Clark (Secretary) 139
Fordham (Builder) 124
Cadle (Accountant) 119
Not Elected:
Crook (Clothier) 112
Hutchins (Grocer) 111
Gooding (Merchant) 92
Hunt (Gentleman) 89
Sandifer (Oilman) 89
Vaile (Gentleman) 83
J W Clark (Tea Broker) 79
Worsfold (Shopkeeper) 78
Churches (Farmer) 40
Reardon (Tailor) 28
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2020 23:31:24 GMT
Maldon RDC December 1894
Althorne ward:
Pipe (Farmer) 17*
Milligan (Vicar) 11
Bradwell
Smith (Farmer) 27*
Sharman (Farmer) 26
Burnham
Gooding (Baptist minister) 239*
Richmond (Oyster merchant) 131*
C Read (Builder) 105
Hawkins (Gentleman) 64
Langford
W Travis Nunn * (unopposed)
Southminster
Prior (bank manager) 181*
Rhys (gentleman) 90*
Smith (Farmer) 79
Tillingham
Sewell (farmer) 85*
Dow (Carrier) 71*
Turner (Farmer) 57
Tolleshunt D'Arcy
Goodchild (Farmer)79*
Seabrook (Farmer) 72
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 24, 2020 11:38:15 GMT
Hatfield Peverel parish election Dec 1894I pick this one out as the paper noted this was fought on "purely political lines", pointed out as it was an unusual occurence.
Of 270 voters, 220 went to the polls, a huge turnout when compared to other localities nearby. The outcome was "A Conservative triumph", winning eight of the nine seats.
Elected:Upson (farmer) 149 Harris (blacksmith) 129 Parker (banker) 121 Moxon (farmer) 104 Hornsby (labourer) 102 Gibson (merchant) 99 Brown (brewer) 97 Watson (bricklayer)92 Diaper (coachbuilder) 89 Not Elected:Bartie (Carpenter) 86 Heard (Station master) 86 Gentry (labourer) 83 Butcher (coal manager) 80 Hales (Labourer) 74 Levett (labourer) 68 Pease (signalman) 68
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Post by David Ashforth on Mar 25, 2020 15:10:36 GMT
I will now check to see if she managed to get there in an election after 1894. I've just finished watching Back In Time to the Corner Shop, and it's prompted a thought that in the 1890s/1900s episodes they never mentioned elections. Many shopkeepers at the time arranged for the wife to have the Business Vote and the husband to have the Household Vote, to get two votes. Not women voters but Women magistrates, ministers and municipal councillors in the West Riding of Yorkshire: 1918-1939 from your fellow former Sheffield councillor Sylvia Dunkley. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Mar 25, 2020 22:12:25 GMT
I've got that in my "incoming" directory waiting to be read. |
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Post by neilm on Apr 2, 2020 8:52:05 GMT
Old Peculier, the beer, is spelt peculiarly.
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Post by neilm on Apr 2, 2020 8:54:47 GMT
Talking of the Peculiar People, was it them or another organisation who built an enormous church that later became shops and then got demolished? Maybe near Brighton? It's possible that I've made that up from a mish mash of dimly remembered A Level chit-chat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:08:16 GMT
Talking of the Peculiar People, was it them or another organisation who built an enormous church that later became shops and then got demolished? Maybe near Brighton? It's possible that I've made that up from a mish mash of dimly remembered A Level chit-chat. Are you perhaps thinking of Jezreel's Tower, in Kent? |
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