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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 11:50:49 GMT
Trying to make a start on the election results of Walthamstow UDC i've just found a collection of election stories from the Essex Herald of December 25th 1894. I thought I would relate them to you.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 12:17:43 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley.
Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult.
The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy.
Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me".
At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps.
Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later.
Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 22, 2020 12:32:47 GMT
The reader is reminded that a 'peculiar' is a Church which is outside the diocesal system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 12:35:48 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley. Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult. The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident in , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy. Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me". At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps. Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later. Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham. The Peculiar People often crop up in Essex local histories, as - despite the slightly checkered history you mention - they spread rapidly and peaked in the 1850s with more than 40 active congregations. They still exist! Now known as the Union of Evangelical Churches they have shed most of their original eccentricities. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 12:38:16 GMT
The reader is reminded that a 'peculiar' is a Church which is outside the diocesal system. That's a different matter, though correct. In that context, the popular beer "Old Peculiar" is named after the Peculiar of Masham. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 22, 2020 12:48:49 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley. Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult. The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident in , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy. Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me". At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps. Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later. Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham. The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 22, 2020 13:00:08 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley. Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult. The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident in , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy. Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me". At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps. Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later. Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham. The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? They might have thought it … peculiar ? (I'll get my cassock) |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 13:01:18 GMT
The reader is reminded that a 'peculiar' is a Church which is outside the diocesal system. That's a different matter, though correct. In that context, the popular beer "Old Peculiar" is named after the Peculiar of Masham. Indeed so.
The quote, for people who are wondering what on earth we are on about is as follows:
"For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth." (Deuteronomy, Ch14 v2).
I was thinking about Old Peculiar too, I wonder how common they were in general terms.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 13:14:54 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley. Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult. The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident in , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy. Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me". At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps. Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later. Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham. The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? Ah, West Green Baptist church. When I was a councillor, I helped the Pastor there with a fence between his property and a Housing Association property leased from the council.
The progression is quite common in the twentieth century I would think. My paternal grandmother was raised as teetotal methodist in Devon (mostly abroad actually as her dad was in the army), became an Anglican when she married and moved to South London having been in service. My father became a Catholic when he married my mother in the 1950s having been brought up as a High Anglican.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 22, 2020 14:02:03 GMT
The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? They might have thought it … peculiar ? (I'll get my cassock) Think it would have been a lot stronger than that and hell fire and damnation would have come into it somewhere, I'm sure |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 14:03:38 GMT
And speaking of religious matters, there was ecumenical harmony in Felsted where the vicar the Rev Cox nominated the local Congregational minister the Rev Houchin, and vice versa.
Both were elected.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 14:37:30 GMT
The paper noted that Bishop Samuel Harrod of the sect The Peculiar People had been elected as a Parish councillor in Thundersley. Harrod had been ordained bishop by the founder of the sect, a man called James Banyard. Banyard was originally from Rochford and had lead a somewhat dissolute life until, in his thirties, attending a Methodist service and experiencing a religious conversion. Nicknamed the Banyardites, they became The Peculiar People in 1852, which is a reference from the Book of Deuteronomy rather than a random insult. The sect did not believe in the gift of healing, but after an incident in , when Banyard apparently healed a sick man who had been brought to his chapel, they bought into it big time. As a result they came to believe that no sect member should consult a doctor for medical matters and should rely only on their faith. This policy was tested to destruction when Banyard's son became ill and he called in a doctor, leading to his being deposed by Harrod for deviating from the policy. Harrod in his turn, was deposed by a 'coup' lead by an elder of the church from Canning Town, called Edward Tansley. The allegation was some sort of hanky panky with a female member of the congregation, which Harrod denied by saying that he was innocent of "nineteen of the twenty things they say against me". At the by election Harrod's opponent was a 'Tansleyite' which must have made for a lively campaign, given that they had already gone round all members of the sect trying to discredit him. His opponents included his son who is curiously described in the report as an 'oilman', which presumably meant he went around selling oil for lamps. Harrod's triumph was short lived, as he died three years later. Canning Town seems to have been a hot spot for this sort of thing as the newspaper article helpfully notes that a Methodist minister called Tom Warren, known as 'the bishop of Canning Town' had been elected to the Board of Guardians in West Ham. The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? Of course I was getting my Baptists confused - the pastor I helped with casework was Gavin Childress who was at Grace Baptist chapel in my ward. Helpfully he wrote this history of the church and its congregation. This is almost certainly where Eileen would have been a worshipper: site-508461.mozfiles.com/files/508461/GBC-History-5.pdf?1494419023
West Green Baptist church is a stop on the 41 bus route , so I go past it many times a week. (or did before the current situation).
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 22, 2020 15:21:21 GMT
The expression "Peculiar People" in that biblical sense was once widey used among certain nonconformist congregations. Certainly the Strict and Particular Baptist congregation that Eileen was once a member of in her teenage Tottenham years (before I knew her) were self-described as Peculiar People in that sense - we are talking early 1950s. By the time I knew her in the late fifties I think she had come to the view that they were also peculiar people in the more conventional understanding of that phrase, and she had moved on to more mainstream Baptists (at West Green, I believe). She subsequenly moved to the Congregationalists, and it was in the High Cross church of that persuasion that we were married. After marriage we eventually imoved again into the Anglican church, and from time to time (mostly in France) has been known to take Mass in the RC church- I wonder what her original Peculiar friends would have made of that progression? Of course I was getting my Baptists confused - the pastor I helped with casework was Gavin Childress who was at Grace Baptist chapel in my ward. Helpfully he wrote this history of the church and its congregation. This is almost certainly where Eileen would have been a worshipper: site-508461.mozfiles.com/files/508461/GBC-History-5.pdf?1494419023
West Green Baptist church is a stop on the 41 bus route , so I go past it many times a week. (or did before the current situation). I am trying to remember what Eileen told me about her early religious life in Tottenham as of course it's no use trying to ask her now. I have remembered her very first "congregation" was the London City Mission aka the "tin chapel "which I think was somehere down the bottom of High Cross Road i.e. near Tottenham Hale. Then would have come the Strict Baptists at the Grace Chapel which you referred to (I wonder if it signified that Eileen's second name, and her Mum's name, is Grace?) and by the time I first knew her in 1957 she had moved on to West Green. I have a feeling they were without a minister in 1960 or we would I guess have been married there, which is I think is why we finished up getting hitched at High Cross.(Plus maybe it was a compromise because I was an Anglican, plus High Cross had the bonus of having the great man Clifford Hill himself as their minister) |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 15:29:02 GMT
Of course I was getting my Baptists confused - the pastor I helped with casework was Gavin Childress who was at Grace Baptist chapel in my ward. Helpfully he wrote this history of the church and its congregation. This is almost certainly where Eileen would have been a worshipper: site-508461.mozfiles.com/files/508461/GBC-History-5.pdf?1494419023
West Green Baptist church is a stop on the 41 bus route , so I go past it many times a week. (or did before the current situation). I am trying to remember what Eileen told me about her early religious life in Tottenham as of course it's no use trying to ask her now. I have remembered her very first "congregation" was the London City Mission aka the "tin chapel "which I think was somehere down the bottom of High Cross Road i.e. near Tottenham Hale. Then would have come the Strict Baptists at the Grace Chapel which you referred to (I wonder if it signified that Eileen's second name, and her Mum's name, is Grace?) and by the time I first knew her in 1957 she had moved on to West Green. I have a feeling they were without a minister in 1960 or we would I guess have been married there, which is I think is why we finished up getting hitched at High Cross.(Plus maybe it was a compromise because I was an Anglican, plus High Cross had the bonus of having the great man Clifford Hill himself as their minister)
The Napier Road chapel only became Grace Baptist in the 70s as they felt that people no longer understood the "Ebenezer" and "Peculiar" references.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 22, 2020 16:02:22 GMT
I am trying to remember what Eileen told me about her early religious life in Tottenham as of course it's no use trying to ask her now. I have remembered her very first "congregation" was the London City Mission aka the "tin chapel "which I think was somehere down the bottom of High Cross Road i.e. near Tottenham Hale. Then would have come the Strict Baptists at the Grace Chapel which you referred to (I wonder if it signified that Eileen's second name, and her Mum's name, is Grace?) and by the time I first knew her in 1957 she had moved on to West Green. I have a feeling they were without a minister in 1960 or we would I guess have been married there, which is I think is why we finished up getting hitched at High Cross.(Plus maybe it was a compromise because I was an Anglican, plus High Cross had the bonus of having the great man Clifford Hill himself as their minister)
The Napier Road chapel only became Grace Baptist in the 70s as they felt that people no longer understood the "Ebenezer" and "Peculiar" references.
Wonderful stuff! I see then that my speculation about Grace Baptist was definitely wrong , which is why I knew Ebenezer and Peculiar in that context but didn't remember Grace, which you might have thought I would. But I also see the LCM gets a mention. I think that might have got demolished when the High Cross Road flats were built- now I think the only reference to High Cross Road remaining. Two other aspects of Tottenham religious life in the 50's: 1. the big impact of the Billy Graham mission which I think had a huge effect on the local nonconformists at a time when otherwise they might have been struggling 2. the arrival of the Caribbean popuation in large numbers -big impact on certain chapels and less on others. Certainly the question was asked of us when we chose High Cross like why on earth were we getting married in a black church? Sorry to take this thread so far away from Essex1894, but at least not about CV 19. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 16:16:00 GMT
It will go where it will YP. That is a good thing. Now we go to Springfield (Chelmsford , not Illiois) to look at an election count controversy from December 1894.
"There is an awkward fix at Springfield. Upon the first count of the poll for parish councillors three candidates tied for last place. On a recount one was thrown out by the rejection of a vote and two tied viz Miss Holgate and Mr J C Smith of Sandford Mill. The returning officer, not being an elector of the parish as it is desirable he should be whenever possible, had no power to give a casting vote and hence the dilemma. What he did was to declare the twelve elected, even though the council is only to consist of eleven members. This return, of course, is hardly likely to stand. Many people seem to have concieved the notion that Mr Frank P Sutthery who was chairman of the parish meeting could give a casting vote, but this is not so. What is to be done? According to some of the textbooks, until the County Council intervene and do something, it would appear that the whole election is void. Either of the two candidates who have tied can take steps to bring about a scrutiny, but a scrutiny is hardly likely to alter matters after so many countings. In default of a scrutiny, it is not quite clear what will occur. The County Council seem to have wide powers in such a matter. The common sense solution, one would think, would be to have a poll simply between the two candidates who tied. This is what is pretty well certain to happen. The election can only be void as far as the two candidates are concerned. It would be absurd to make it void as regards the other ten".
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 22, 2020 16:24:01 GMT
It will go where it will YP. That is a good thing. Now we go to Springfield (Chelmsford , not Illiois) to look at an election count controversy from December 1894.
"There is an awkward fix at Springfield. Upon the first count of the poll for parish councillors three candidates tied for last place. On a recount one was thrown out by the rejection of a vote and two tied viz Miss Holgate and Mr J C Smith of Sandford Mill. The returning officer, not being an elector of the parish as it is desirable he should be whenever possible, had no power to give a casting vote and hence the dilemma. What he did was to declare the twelve elected, even though the council is only to consist of eleven members. This return, of course, is hardly likely to stand. Many people seem to have concieved the notion that Mr Frank P Sutthery who was chairman of the parish meeting could give a casting vote, but this is not so. What is to be done? According to some of the textbooks, until the County Council intervene and do something, it would appear that the whole election is void. Either of the two candidates who have tied can take steps to bring about a scrutiny, but a scrutiny is hardly likely to alter matters after so many countings. In default of a scrutiny, it is not quite clear what will occur. The County Council seem to have wide powers in such a matter. The common sense solution, one would think, would be to have a poll simply between the two candidates who tied. This is what is pretty well certain to happen. The election can only be void as far as the two candidates are concerned. It would be absurd to make it void as regards the other ten".
I will try and find the sequel to this. Would any participants in the prediction competition like to guess what resulted? The two were requested to draw lots. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 22, 2020 16:26:41 GMT
It will go where it will YP. That is a good thing. Now we go to Springfield (Chelmsford , not Illiois) to look at an election count controversy from December 1894.
"There is an awkward fix at Springfield. Upon the first count of the poll for parish councillors three candidates tied for last place. On a recount one was thrown out by the rejection of a vote and two tied viz Miss Holgate and Mr J C Smith of Sandford Mill. The returning officer, not being an elector of the parish as it is desirable he should be whenever possible, had no power to give a casting vote and hence the dilemma. What he did was to declare the twelve elected, even though the council is only to consist of eleven members. This return, of course, is hardly likely to stand. Many people seem to have concieved the notion that Mr Frank P Sutthery who was chairman of the parish meeting could give a casting vote, but this is not so. What is to be done? According to some of the textbooks, until the County Council intervene and do something, it would appear that the whole election is void. Either of the two candidates who have tied can take steps to bring about a scrutiny, but a scrutiny is hardly likely to alter matters after so many countings. In default of a scrutiny, it is not quite clear what will occur. The County Council seem to have wide powers in such a matter. The common sense solution, one would think, would be to have a poll simply between the two candidates who tied. This is what is pretty well certain to happen. The election can only be void as far as the two candidates are concerned. It would be absurd to make it void as regards the other ten".
I will try and find the sequel to this. Would any participants in the prediction competition like to guess what resulted? The two were requested to draw lots. Any other guesses? |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 22, 2020 16:30:12 GMT
The reader is reminded that a 'peculiar' is a Church which is outside the diocesal system. That's a different matter, though correct. In that context, the popular beer "Old Peculiar" is named after the Peculiar of Masham. Rather than after the people who drink it. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 22, 2020 16:32:41 GMT
The two were requested to draw lots. Any other guesses? Miss Holgate was declared elected under gender balance rules. |
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