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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 11:21:32 GMT
Rudd is resigning from parliament. Leaving at the end of the week. Can't Brown do the same over here !! I wish, the Cowdenbeath Holyrood by-election will cover a fair bit of his patch too.. |
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Post by erlend on Nov 14, 2013 12:53:48 GMT
Was there any overlap with Dunfermline? Probably not but the boundaries do strange thing to make electorates equal.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 15, 2013 10:44:21 GMT
Now looks very likely that the Western Australia Senate result will be voided and the entire state will vote again. The Australian Electoral Commission has itself authorised a petition to the Court of Disputed Returns to have the result thrown out: www.aec.gov.au/media/media-releases/2013/11-15.htmMain reason why this is likely to succeed is the loss, in between the count and the recount, of 1,370 ballots which seem to have made the difference in a crucial elimination stage. Don't think a void election has ever happened before in an Australian Senate election. |
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Post by erlend on Nov 15, 2013 11:41:27 GMT
Problem is that the turnout willl I assume be rather lower and therefore less democratically legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 13:20:03 GMT
The Australian Sports Party are going to be pissed..
Any guesses on what the re-run election will look like? Don't think the polls have moved since the election.
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 15, 2013 14:13:27 GMT
Don't think a void election has ever happened before in an Australian Senate election. It happened in 1906-08 in South Australia. The election then was three member multi-member FPTP and Joseph Vardon, an Anti-Socialist, beat James O'Loghlin, Labor, for the third seat by just 34 votes. The case went to court and at the end of May 1907 Vardon's election was voided. The South Australian Parliament had a Labor majority and appointed O'Loghlin. This appointment was voided by the courts in December and a one-seat by-election ordered, which Vardon won in February by nearly 6,000 votes. psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/a/australia/1906/1906senatesa.txtpsephos.adam-carr.net/countries/a/australia/1906/1906senateapps.txtHowever the election system back then was more favourable to trimming off clear and unclear elections and so the other two seats (1 AS, 1 ALP) were never voided or revoted. Problem is that the turnout willl I assume be rather lower and therefore less democratically legitimate. Compulsory voting, though I'm not sure what arrangements would be in place for out of state or overseas voters. But ultimately it's whoever turns out who decides. Interesting to see just how much is rerun - whether or not nominations are reopened or if the parties get to change their preference tickets. And South Australia is considering some changes to its upper house elections next March. One bill is on deposits, nominations, labels for unregistered parties and access to group voting tickets. The other is on Sainte-Lague list PR. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 2, 2013 15:18:16 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Feb 19, 2014 19:25:43 GMT
Western Australia will rerun it's Senate election. Expert the Liberals to lose a seat.
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Post by markgoodair on Feb 28, 2014 7:49:18 GMT
The rerun of the Western Australia Senate election has been set for 5th April.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 19, 2015 13:03:31 GMT
Short honeymoon for Malcolm Turnbull?
The Liberals seem to have held their seat in a byelection today in the division of Canning (Western Australia), made up of wealthy southern sububs of Perth, but there's something like a 7% swing to Labor.
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Post by Richard Allen on Sept 19, 2015 13:34:20 GMT
The Liberals were bracing for defeat so they will be happy with that regardless of the swing to Labor.
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Post by greenhert on Sept 19, 2015 13:44:23 GMT
Which was 6.4%, to be precise. In other news, the Palmer United Party lost more than half of its 2013 vote share in this by-election, plunging from 6.8% to just 3%. I hope the Australian Greens made an improvement (when will the full result be released?)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 22:11:55 GMT
Tony Windsor, one of the three independents who supported the Gillard government, has announced a return to politics and will contest his old seat of New England from which he retired in 2013. Some spice is added to the contest by the incumbent being the Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce. Windsor is an ex National and he and Joyce do not get along.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 14, 2016 0:55:27 GMT
Word is that Malcolm Turnbull will use Abbott-era proposed legislation that blocked by the upper house as a trigger for a dissolution of both chambers soon. An election would follow on July 2nd or a week later. He could technically wait until January 2017 to seek his own mandate, but has never seemed to favour that option.
The Coalition just managed to get a law passed, with Green support, slightly modifying the Senate electoral system to help flush out some of the 'micro-parties' that got in on less than 2% of the vote last time. The method for then deciding which Senators get 3-year terms and which get 6-year ones appears utterly arbitrary and unfair.
This is clearly designed to catch Labor on the hop as it sounds like the Leader of the Opposition is not all that popular. It also means that the redistricting of the 2 seats in the north will not take effect until the following election.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:47:26 GMT
Yes the change is to allow multiple preferences above the line and to remove group voting tickets, so your votes are exhausted when your ATL preferences run out. There was a recommendation to make preferencing optional BTL but this was not taken up, so BTL voters will still have to set out all 120 (or whatever) preferences. The only BTL change is to increase the number of "allowable mistakes" from three to five.
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 14, 2016 10:34:34 GMT
Word is that Malcolm Turnbull will use Abbott-era proposed legislation that blocked by the upper house as a trigger for a dissolution of both chambers soon. An election would follow on July 2nd or a week later. He could technically wait until January 2017 to seek his own mandate, but has never seemed to favour that option. Even with a change to the electoral system, there must be the possibility for some seriously wacky results in the Senate, with 12 seats up in each state. STV works reasonably well with 3 to 5 seat constituencies. Much above that and you get some bizarre results and with 12 seat constituencies you can expect some utterly crazy results. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 11:14:32 GMT
A simple 1 vote will be permitted but your preferences will no longer be distributed as GVTs will be banned. This creates the odd effect of preferencing ATL effectively being voluntary, while remaining compulsory BTL.
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Post by iain on Mar 14, 2016 12:18:09 GMT
Yes the change is to allow multiple preferences above the line and to remove group voting tickets, so your votes are exhausted when your ATL preferences run out. There was a recommendation to make preferencing optional BTL but this was not taken up, so BTL voters will still have to set out all 120 (or whatever) preferences. The only BTL change is to increase the number of "allowable mistakes" from three to five. According to wiki it seems that for voting ATL a minimum of 6 preferences will be required, with that extending to 12 preferences BTL |
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Post by john07 on Mar 14, 2016 12:23:02 GMT
A simple 1 vote will be permitted but your preferences will no longer be distributed as GVTs will be banned. This creates the odd effect of preferencing ATL effectively being voluntary, while remaining compulsory BTL. Can you explain the acronyms as I haven't a clue what you are trying to put over? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 12:39:53 GMT
Yes the change is to allow multiple preferences above the line and to remove group voting tickets, so your votes are exhausted when your ATL preferences run out. There was a recommendation to make preferencing optional BTL but this was not taken up, so BTL voters will still have to set out all 120 (or whatever) preferences. The only BTL change is to increase the number of "allowable mistakes" from three to five. According to wiki it seems that for voting ATL a minimum of 6 preferences will be required, with that extending to 12 preferences BTL You are right. I had missed that they had accepted the case for optional preferencing BTL. |
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