Australian General Election

[Deleted]

Knifed by the person you yourself knifed. Ah, politics.

[Andrew_S]

The danger of getting rid of Julia Gillard is that a lot of disgruntled female voters may vote for the Greens and refuse to rank Labor above the Coalition.

[Andrew_S]

Rudd: 57
Gillard: 45

[Deleted]

Rudd has won 57-45.

[Deleted]

Jun 26, 2013 9:32:41 GMT doktorb🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ said:

Knifed by the person you yourself knifed. Ah, politics.

The term knifed implies a subtly and betrayal of the type that isn't really seen here. 

Its more of an axe-murder. Australian labour made the right choice here, but the mistake was letting this lady get anywhere near the leadership in the first place, and this may be too little, too late.

I imagine the election will be pulled back to early august now rather than mid-late sept.

[Andrew_S]

A lady by the name of Quentin Bryce will be deciding what happens next:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Bryce

[The Bishop]

Blimmin heck, never thought that this would actually happen!

[Andrew_S]

Quentin Bryce is in favour of female quotas so she may not be particularly impressed by today's developments:

[Tangent]

Shorten giveth, and Shorten hath taken away. Blessed be the name of Bill.

[tricky]

Both Rudd and Gillard announced before the vote that they would leave Parliament at the election if they lost.

Best analogy I saw was that it was all a bit Harry Potter and Voldemort. Neither could survive while the other lived.

[Tangent]

So far, Swan, Conroy, Emerson, Ludwig, and Combet have decided to leave the ministerial ranks.

[Tangent]

Garrett goes too. So far, six out of nineteen Cabinet ministers under Gillard will leave.

[greatkingrat]

I can't see this ending well. I predict a new leader (neither Rudd or Gillard) by the end of the year, after a convincing Coalition victory in the general election.

[The Bishop]

That may rather miss the point, though - isn't this about ensuring that the ALP are merely beaten, rather than annihilated, a few months from now?

Some of Rudd's backers might believe he can actually win, but not many others do.....

[Tangent]

Rudd considerably more gracious to Gillard in his conference than the reverse - understandable from her, in the circumstances, but from his side, possibly a recognition than he needs to build bridges and have as strong a frontbench as he can in the circs.

[Deleted]

Her Press Conference:

[iainbhx]

having had a quick look at The Poll Bludger I notice this:

Morgan has sprung into action with a “snap” SMS poll of 2530 respondents, showing a Coalition lead of just 50.5-49.5 from primary votes of 38% for Labor, 43% for the Coalition and 8.5% for the Greens. For what it’s worth, a Morgan poll conducted by the same method on the day of the 2010 election turned in a highly accurate result.

[Khunanup]

A lurch back to the right for Aussie Labor. Yet again it shows what an inherently Conservative political culture Australia has that someone like Rudd can lead a Social Democratic Party and have his cronies completely control it.

[Deleted]

Bit more complex than that, isn't it? It was the right powerbrokers from NSW that put Gillard in, and while she clearly has a much stronger relationship with the union movement it is not true that Rudd is more right wing across the board.

[Khunanup]

Jun 26, 2013 20:26:29 GMT @strinity said:

Bit more complex than that, isn't it? It was the right powerbrokers from NSW that put Gillard in, and while she clearly has a much stronger relationship with the union movement it is not true that Rudd is more right wing across the board.

From my viewpoint Rudd has always come across as a politician that outside Australia would in virtually every other democracy be a Conservative/Christian Democrat, and quite clearly so. Unlike Blair, he's never even seemed to make sops to 'the left' which is hardly surprising as outside Sydney and Melbourne, Australia remains an inherently conservative culture.