Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 24, 2020 2:44:21 GMT
(Although that particular type of "middle-class suburban" is massively Labour at present.) Type? No. Nonsense. Geographical location, yes. |
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Feb 24, 2020 7:26:41 GMT
Blaby DC; Millfield - Nick Brown has been around this part of Blaby for many years, I believe he is currently leader of the town council. Given Labour's difficulties currently this may be a Tory gain, but his name may help Labour squeak home.
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 24, 2020 8:37:05 GMT
(Although that particular type of "middle-class suburban" is massively Labour at present.) Type? No. Nonsense. Geographical location, yes. Have you been there? If there's one area populated by a 'type' it's Charlton and Whalley Range! |
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 24, 2020 8:55:19 GMT
Which seat was Victoria Park, Rusholme in?
It featured in the recent film about Lowry - Mrs Lowry & Son. His overdominant mother longed to returned to the genteel ways of Victoria Park after they had to move to Pendlebury.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 24, 2020 9:07:47 GMT
(Although that particular type of "middle-class suburban" is massively Labour at present.) Of course Charlton and Whalley Range were once Tory areas. They are now very much full of middle class left wingers with lots of degrees Yes, demographic change, with various sources. Not just white flight, but the destruction of the Stretford Road corridor from the city centre, which wiped out lots of small family businesses, and some larger concerns. And the connected employment. Gorton etc probably saw something similar. Roughly people moved out along the A roads. The old Hulme and Moss Side electorate pushed towards Chorlton and Sale, the (better-off) Gorton electorate ended up in the likes of Hazel Grove. And of course many of the rest were deported to Partington, Hattersley and the arse-end of Wilmslow. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2020 9:30:17 GMT
Which seat was Victoria Park, Rusholme in? It featured in the recent film about Lowry - Mrs Lowry & Son. His overdominant mother longed to returned to the genteel ways of Victoria Park after they had to move to Pendlebury. Manchester, Rusholme?
Created in 1918 and abolished in 1950, it wasn't won by Labour until 1945 and although Labour finished second in a 1919 by election they didn't become firmly established in second until 1931.
Another by election in 1933 saw the Tories hold on again and they even managed to hold on in a wartime by election (1944), which even if the vote of the Commonwealth and Independent Labour candidates had been combined would have seen them home by over 1,000.
Lester Hutchinson's majority in 1945 was only 10!
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2020 9:35:16 GMT
Type? No. Nonsense. Geographical location, yes. Have you been there? If there's one area populated by a 'type' it's Charlton and Whalley Range! Chorlton..?
I mean, Wheelie!
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 24, 2020 9:54:33 GMT
I love it when Mancunians roll their ‘r’s.
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 24, 2020 10:21:49 GMT
I love it when Mancunians roll their ‘r’s. Mancs don't, really. For that you need to go up to Bolton and east Lancashire. Preston most of all |
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 24, 2020 11:55:36 GMT
I love it when Mancunians roll their ‘r’s. Mancs don't, really. For that you need to go up to Bolton and east Lancashire. Preston most of all Mark Owen from Oldham is one that I notice regularly. Plus my friend from Wigan. |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 24, 2020 13:07:38 GMT
Mancs don't, really. For that you need to go up to Bolton and east Lancashire. Preston most of all Mark Owen from Oldham is one that I notice regularly. Plus my friend from Wigan. It's the flat vowels most distinctive in Wigan. Ask them to say bear |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 24, 2020 13:50:27 GMT
Mark Owen from Oldham is one that I notice regularly. Plus my friend from Wigan. It's the flat vowels most distinctive in Wigan. Ask them to say bear Does it come out as "burrrrr"? |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 24, 2020 16:03:26 GMT
It's the flat vowels most distinctive in Wigan. Ask them to say bear Does it come out as "burrrrr"? Literally My other half is a Wiganer |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 24, 2020 16:06:05 GMT
Does it come out as "burrrrr"? Literally My other half is a Wiganer I spent too much time watching rugby league on the telly in the 80's. Wigan were the dominant team during most of that time, so there were lots of interviews with their players, who if they weren't Australian, talked like that. |
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Post by iang on Feb 24, 2020 22:03:27 GMT
I spent a year as youth worker in the late 80s in Widnes, when they were the second best RL team. I remember on Challenge Cup final day the entire town being awash with black and white, except opposite where I lived, where a giant red and white clad mannikin hung out of the upstairs window. It was the Wigan scrum half's parents' house
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Post by bjornhattan on Feb 24, 2020 22:24:01 GMT
Does it come out as "burrrrr"? Literally My other half is a Wiganer I think that feature extends into the Chorley area as well - the two people who came into my head when I thought of that particular sound were Lindsay Hoyle and a university friend from Leyland. |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 26, 2020 21:08:24 GMT
Literally My other half is a Wiganer I think that feature extends into the Chorley area as well - the two people who came into my head when I thought of that particular sound were Lindsay Hoyle and a university friend from Leyland. Choooorrrrley, Buuurrrnnnley & environs have the most extreme 'Lancashire accents'. Pie Eater & Sint 'elens etc accents are very different (& in the latter case, are very different depending which side of town you are). And then there's Leigh accents... |
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 27, 2020 0:32:42 GMT
Hilarious Lancashire accents don't come much more hilarious than
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 27, 2020 8:56:05 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 27, 2020 10:11:09 GMT
Does it come out as "burrrrr"? Literally My other half is a Wiganer Urrr, thurr and uv'rywurr! |
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