cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Nov 28, 2019 9:35:01 GMT
www.senedd.assembly.wales/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=23754www.assembly.wales/en/newhome/pages/newsitem.aspx?itemid=2054Salient points: - Lower the voting age to 16.
- The new official name of Senedd Cymru / Welsh Parliament.
- Giving the vote to eligible foreign nationals.
- [li]Change the law so that most disqualifications prohibit a person from taking up a seat in the Assembly but not from standing for election, thereby allowing more people to stand for election.
- To make the Electoral Commission funded by and accountable to the Assembly for Welsh elections.
Passed with the required 2/3 majority 41 to 19 with both the Presiding Officer and Deputy Presiding Officer voting as it was a constitutional bill.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 28, 2019 9:36:47 GMT
[/b] [li][li]Change the law so that most disqualifications prohibit a person from taking up a seat in the Assembly but not from standing for election, thereby allowing more people to stand for election.[/li] [li]To make the Electoral Commission funded by and accountable to the Assembly for Welsh elections.[/li] [/ul] Passed with the required 2/3 majority 41 to 19 with both the Presiding Officer and Deputy Presiding Officer voting as it was a constitutional bill.[/quote] What does this mean? Eligible foreign nationals already have the vote, by definition |
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Nov 29, 2019 9:49:55 GMT
It means that any foreign national in Wales for the qualifying period can vote. This was the reason the Brexit Party and the Conservatives voted against.
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middyman
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Post by middyman on Nov 29, 2019 10:53:35 GMT
When I was at school, we had a mock General Election once. The East Anglian Republicans won.
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Post by minionofmidas on Dec 2, 2019 12:21:58 GMT
"the biggest changes to the democratic process in Wales in half a century"? What about Devolution itself?
Also, what's the rationale here:
What's the point of standing if you can't take your seat? What "disqualifications" are we talking about here anyways?
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Post by greatkingrat on Dec 2, 2019 13:02:14 GMT
In 2011, two Liberal Democrats were disqualified as they were members of the Care Council for Wales, and the Valuation Tribunal for Wales. If this legislation was in effect they would have been able to resign their posts after being elected, instead of having to resign before standing for election. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-13433923 |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 2, 2019 13:05:12 GMT
In 2011, two Liberal Democrats were disqualified as they were members of the Care Council for Wales, and the Valuation Tribunal for Wales. If this legislation was in effect they would have been able to resign their posts after being elected, instead of having to resign before standing for election. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-13433923This rule should be in place for all elected bodies. |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 2, 2019 13:19:10 GMT
In 2011, two Liberal Democrats were disqualified as they were members of the Care Council for Wales, and the Valuation Tribunal for Wales. If this legislation was in effect they would have been able to resign their posts after being elected, instead of having to resign before standing for election. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-13433923This rule should be in place for all elected bodies. There was a council by-election in Herefordshire recently caused by something similar. IIRC the elected councillor was doing a small amount of work for an arms-length body, but was still caught by the rule barring being a councillor while working for the council. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2019 13:55:01 GMT
It's a different process but the local government rule is well overdue for reform too. Dates back to the days when council committees did get involved with individual employees' pay and conditions, but those days are long gone.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Dec 7, 2019 18:47:06 GMT
It's a different process but the local government rule is well overdue for reform too. Dates back to the days when council committees did get involved with individual employees' pay and conditions, but those days are long gone. I believe the local government rules are also being modified in a separate bill along the same lines. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 7, 2019 19:01:54 GMT
Also, what's the rationale here: What's the point of standing if you can't take your seat? What "disqualifications" are we talking about here anyways? One practical effect is to transfer the problem of adjudicating on this from a local returning officer who may not have the full information to hand (and there have been problems in the past with official advice not being up to date, including one case where the Welsh language document differed from the English language one) to the Assembly staff who will presumably have more resources. It would also allow anyone caught out to simply resign their position without forcing an expensive by-election. In addition it would also limit the problems with the "my opponent is ineligible to be elected" sort of campaign and petition. |
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