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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 29, 2019 13:17:05 GMT
There have now been almost a hundred Council by-elections since May and Labour's vote has gone down in all but (I think) five. Why does anyone think they can win the General Election? But, but ... "Oh, Jeremy ... " |
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Post by polaris on Nov 29, 2019 13:52:23 GMT
There have now been almost a hundred Council by-elections since May and Labour's vote has gone down in all but (I think) five. Why does anyone think they can win the General Election?Their only feasible objective on this occasion can be to deny the Conservatives a majority. I think a lot of Corbynites honestly believe that they're going to win. You have to remember that there are a lot of people who inhabit an electronic echo chamber of pro-Corbyn Facebook groups and alt-left fake news websites. Although the phenomenon also existed before the social media era - I remember speaking to an old-school moderate Labour councillor who told me that he thought Labour were going to win in 1983. He described how he left a Foot rally feeling as if he was "walking on air" and believing that he was just hours away from a radical socialist government. There is something about political activists that stops many of them from seeing things objectively, and makes them prone to wishful thinking and outright self-delusion. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 29, 2019 13:56:37 GMT
I can predict what will be in your posts before I actually read them.....
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Post by polaris on Nov 29, 2019 15:14:10 GMT
I can predict what will be in your posts before I actually read them..... And I can always predict what will be in your posts - a load of passive-aggression and brainless tribalism... |
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Post by tonygreaves on Nov 29, 2019 20:52:08 GMT
I remember it well (Feb 1974)
. Rather different circumstances.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 30, 2019 11:51:58 GMT
There have now been almost a hundred Council by-elections since May and Labour's vote has gone down in all but (I think) five. Why does anyone think they can win the General Election? Aren't three of those five in the last few weeks? And I don't think this week's Labour results - falling back modestly in already totally uncompetitive seats - tell us very much tbh. |
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 4, 2019 17:22:10 GMT
There have now been almost a hundred Council by-elections since May and Labour's vote has gone down in all but (I think) five. Why does anyone think they can win the General Election? In February 1974 the Labour vote in the general election went down by 6%. Labour formed the government after the election. Cant you find an example from further back David? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 4, 2019 17:48:33 GMT
In February 1974 the Labour vote in the general election went down by 6%. Labour formed the government after the election. Cant you find an example from further back David? In 1964, the Labour vote fell in numerical terms (and therefore as a percentage of the electorate), and Labour came in to government. |
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