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Post by edgbaston on May 14, 2024 13:50:37 GMT
Even the move to single member wards seems to leave the problem of wards that are just a little too large. Wigan council has 75 Cllrs and about the same population but with a fraction of the area. I would propose a move to about 85 Cllrs
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 14, 2024 14:31:20 GMT
Wigan is an authority based on large towns and sizeable villages. Most of the parishes in East Yorkshire have under 1000 electors - I haven't checked, but the median might even be under 500. I think you're still going to get large wards.
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Post by edgbaston on May 15, 2024 13:04:31 GMT
Plan: imgur.com/a/5U5YpkOBeverly & Holderness CC:
Withernsea - 2 Mid Holderness - 2 Hedon - 2 North Holderness - 1 West Holderness - 1 Hornsea - 2 Leven - 1 Normandy - 1 Beverley North - 3 Beverley South - 3 South Wolds - 1 East Yorkshire CC:
Flamborough - 1 Bridlington East - 3 Bridlington West - 3 East Wolds - 1 Nafferton & Beeford - 1 Driffield - 3 Hutton Cranwick & Middleton - 1 West Wolds - 1 Derwent - 2 Pocklington - 2 Holme-on-Spalding-Moor - 1 Weighton & North Cave - 2 Haltemprice / Hull West:
Hessle - 3 Cottingham East - 2 Cottingham West - 2 Willberby & Kirk Ella - 3 Anlaby - 2 Swanland & Ferriby - 2 Brough - 3 South Cave & Broomfleet - 1 Gilberdyke - 1 Howdenshire - 2 Brigg & Goole CC: Snaith - 1 Rawcliffe & Marshland - 1 Goole South - 2 Goole North - 2 |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 15, 2024 14:11:21 GMT
Just realised there's an easy, least change solution to Bridlington that just requires moving one polling district and a portion of another polling district (and that a portion which is separated from the rest of its current ward by a caravan park on one side and playing fields on the other):  |
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Post by YL on May 15, 2024 16:41:35 GMT
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Post by jamie on May 15, 2024 18:10:13 GMT
A lot of ‘major settlement rural’ wards, both genuinely rural areas and encompassing part of the town/city but missing the corresponding compass point to the completely urban ward. |
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Post by edgbaston on May 15, 2024 19:33:22 GMT
A lot of ‘major settlement rural’ wards, both genuinely rural areas and encompassing part of the town/city but missing the corresponding compass point to the completely urban ward. Agreed, you could have: Lichfield Rural North -> Lichfield East & Fradley Lichfield Rural East - > Tame Valley Lichfield Rural South -> Canwell Lichfield Rural West -> Armitage Stafford West & Rural -> Stafford Castle Stone Rural North -> Barlaston Leek Rural -> Leek North & The Peaks Newcastle Rural -> Madeley & Loggerheads I would keep Uttoxeter Rural that one seems fair enough. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 16, 2024 4:52:42 GMT
"Cheslyn Hay Village, Featherstone, and Shareshill" feels more District than County.
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Post by John Chanin on May 16, 2024 6:47:14 GMT
"Cheslyn Hay Village, Featherstone, and Shareshill" feels more District than County. What would you prefer? South Staffordshire North? |
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Post by John Chanin on May 16, 2024 6:55:26 GMT
The only significant changes in Coventry are on the west of the city, where new development means that Bablake loses territory to Woodlands, Woodlands loses its part of Tile Hill to Westwood, and Westwood loses Westwood Heath to the weirdly shaped Wainbody, consequently being renamed Canley & Tile Hill. Proposed changes elsewhere were almost all reversed after consultation.
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Post by YL on May 16, 2024 7:47:41 GMT
"Cheslyn Hay Village, Featherstone, and Shareshill" feels more District than County. What would you prefer? South Staffordshire North? They could have at least left out the “Village”. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 16, 2024 8:51:23 GMT
A lot of ‘major settlement rural’ wards, both genuinely rural areas and encompassing part of the town/city but missing the corresponding compass point to the completely urban ward. Also a lot of divisions with poor electoral equality. Usually this is harder for counties because divisions can't cross district lines, but that's not the issue here - Lichfield Rural North borders Lichfield South (+10%) borders Lichfield Rural North (-12%); Biddulph North (-11%) borders Biddulph South & Endon (+8%); Burton Town (+13%) borders Burton Trent (-9%). In all of these cases you could fix things just by moving a handful of streets. |
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Post by Khunanup on May 16, 2024 14:39:28 GMT
A lot of ‘major settlement rural’ wards, both genuinely rural areas and encompassing part of the town/city but missing the corresponding compass point to the completely urban ward. Also a lot of divisions with poor electoral equality. Usually this is harder for counties because divisions can't cross district lines, but that's not the issue here - Lichfield Rural North borders Lichfield South (+10%) borders Lichfield Rural North (-12%); Biddulph North (-11%) borders Biddulph South & Endon (+8%); Burton Town (+13%) borders Burton Trent (-9%). In all of these cases you could fix things just by moving a handful of streets. Are those current electorates or projected electorates? |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 16, 2024 14:49:44 GMT
Also a lot of divisions with poor electoral equality. Usually this is harder for counties because divisions can't cross district lines, but that's not the issue here - Lichfield Rural North borders Lichfield South (+10%) borders Lichfield Rural North (-12%); Biddulph North (-11%) borders Biddulph South & Endon (+8%); Burton Town (+13%) borders Burton Trent (-9%). In all of these cases you could fix things just by moving a handful of streets. Are those current electorates or projected electorates? Projected. |
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Post by Khunanup on May 16, 2024 14:54:23 GMT
Are those current electorates or projected electorates? Projected. Something appears to have gone a bit awry there... |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 16, 2024 15:25:21 GMT
Something appears to have gone a bit awry there... One of the reasons I am generally against local ward boundaries being decided on the basis of projected electorates is that the projections are almost always way out of line with what actually happens. |
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Post by edgbaston on May 16, 2024 16:15:28 GMT
Something appears to have gone a bit awry there... One of the reasons I am generally against local ward boundaries being decided on the basis of projected electorates is that the projections are almost always way out of line with what actually happens. It’ll be interesting to see how Liverpool’s rotten boroughs develop. I bet half the people in the new buildings don’t register due to it being mostly housing that tends to be occupied by a transient young professional population. |
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Post by edgbaston on May 16, 2024 16:20:23 GMT
"Cheslyn Hay Village, Featherstone, and Shareshill" feels more District than County. What would you prefer? South Staffordshire North? Featherstone & Cheslyn would be fine. I would also favour ‘Hilton Park’, after the country house and services half way between the two settlements. Shareshill has no business being included in a county council division name. |
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2024 16:31:19 GMT
Well, the main distinguishing feature of the division would be the number of prisons in it. So perhaps we can work out something from that.
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Post by Khunanup on May 16, 2024 16:50:41 GMT
Well, the main distinguishing feature of the division would be the number of prisons in it. So perhaps we can work out something from that. Lock & Key. Sounds like a typical rural county division... |
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